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Corwin Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2007 Posts: 798
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: Need help with ID of engine - I'm stumped |
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So I'm finding references to it being both a 1300 and a 1600. I can't figure this one out - anyone?
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34012 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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A quick scan of online listings says 1600; 1300 motors are F engines. |
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johnanddes Satellite Wrangler
Joined: October 17, 2004 Posts: 692 Location: Orcutt CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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http://type2.com/bartnik/enginecodes.htm
You have a 1600 with an oil pressure relief valve. I am pretty sure yours maybe a dual port with that code, because it was a universal case from 1966-1979. _________________ John
1969 documented numbers matching bug
1968 F250
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Corwin Samba Member
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26320 Location: Douglas, WY
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34012 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Okay, this could get complicated. In the US there were no engine options in a given year-- you got the sole engine that VWoA decided to import. But in other markets you could get older engines and different displacements. And of course people swapped engines easily once they bought the cars.
Also remember that the case geometry was almost unchanged from the 1300-up, at least in that it used the longer stroke crank/rods, and with little or no machining, could take larger P/Cs and newer heads. So a new block could be configured as a 1300, 1500, 1600, single or dual intakes.
So a table set up for US models will give one answer, and those from other markets will give different, or even multiple answers.
So the case code will tell you about the case, but not give you definitive displacement info. |
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 19395 Location: Samba Center for Behavioral Science
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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AFAIK there were some German or Euro based A* code cases shipped over here over the years that do not match our tables we reference. I have seen AD cases before. They are late model dual releif 8mm studs with factory case inserts and had a 69mm crank and 77mm pistons and cyls ( 1300 ) with some Euro only issued small valve dual port heads and a smaller sized intake center section with a smaller 31 Pict 3 carb.
BUT that does not mean the case was not used/rebuilt into a 1600 at some point.
IF you know what your looking at the cylinders ( shape/fins) can tell if it 77mm jugs or not. Otherwise you would have to tear into it and take at least one head off. |
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Corwin Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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It has dual Kadron carbs. Here's a pic of the engine:
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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My bet/best guess is it is a 1600 and was just rebuilt using that case... many of them made it over as "german cores" for rebuilders over here in the 80's early 90's.... |
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xnakx Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2005 Posts: 237 Location: Under my car
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: |
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happened to me
my numbers call it a 1300 but when i went to change a bad head i found out i had a 1600. _________________ -- The Backyard Butcher --
66 Sedan WIP (Work In Progress) |
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