| Author |
Message |
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
 Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: The tear down has started |
 |
|
Yup, like the title says, I've started tearing down the 71 Rustback (Krunchy). I started working on it Wednesday evening after work, mostly pulling the front fenders and hood, but also removing the rear seat pieces. Then Thursday, the title came (yes it's offical I own it now), and I pulled the doors, seats and carpet out, along with the wiring, dash pad and guages. Friday I didn't get much done, other than pulling the few bolts that were still actually holding the body to the tunnel (the sides of the floor were that far gone). Here's some pics for you to see how far I've gotten with it so far. It's looking like it might make it to the 2008 T-3 I yet. 
After seeing Russ's 71 Fastback, I thought I'd share this one with you.
No wonder it needed a gas heater, with all the flow thru ventilation, you'd need it. 
I've decided thatI'm going to replace the pan halfs like a bug, ghia, or Thing would, as I've still got a ton of fabrication work to get done in the next 13 months, along with taking care of my customer work. Needless to say it's been a productive few days. It helps now that it cooled off into the low to mid 70's.  [/img]
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
Last edited by Bobnotch on Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:36 pm; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
wolfman's brother
Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2003
Posts: 1149
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
krunchy is perfect for that car.hope you're up to date on your tetnus(sp?)shot!
what direction you going with it bob?
_________________
insanity takes it's toll,please have exact change ready.
my imaginary friends keep telling me I have a mental problem. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tram
Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003
Posts: 22711
Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| wolfman's brother wrote: |
krunchy is perfect for that car.hope you're up to date on your tetnus(sp?)shot!
what direction you going with it bob? |
Towards Saline, Mi. would be my guess.
_________________
Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
| Bryan67 wrote: |
| Just my hands. And a little lube. No tools. |
To best contact me, please use the EMAIL function in my profile |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wolfman's brother
Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2003
Posts: 1149
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
always a wiseguy in the crowd 
_________________
insanity takes it's toll,please have exact change ready.
my imaginary friends keep telling me I have a mental problem. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Towel Rail
Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005
Posts: 4622
Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The man's got guts!
I'm confused though -- is that an early beam on the front? I thought '71s would have discs there.
_________________
1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
049 > 070 > 053 > 009 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It's going to be a mostly stock resto (actually more like a resto-custom), but it will get a few mods. As I currently didn't get the correct rear fenders for it (still haven't heard back from Martin yet either), I'll have to fabricate my own for the rear. The entire front clip will be replaced with one from a Square (already have), as this one is way too far gone to save. I'm planning on putting the 2.0L t-4 engine I have here in it, but after I do a cam swap to it (it's a 71 FI engine, which will work nicely in the 71 Notch). I still have to cut off the frame head, and replace it, as it's rusty on top and bottom. I should have the pan portion done in the next couple of weeks, then I can start working on the body fabrication phase.
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Towel Rail wrote: |
The man's got guts!
I'm confused though -- is that an early beam on the front? I thought '71s would have discs there. |
It's a late beam, and yes it has discs.
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Towel Rail
Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005
Posts: 4622
Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Bobnotch wrote: |
| Towel Rail wrote: |
The man's got guts!
I'm confused though -- is that an early beam on the front? I thought '71s would have discs there. |
It's a late beam, and yes it has discs. |
Oh, whoops. Thought those were drum backing plates. 
_________________
1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
049 > 070 > 053 > 009 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Russ Wolfe
Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004
Posts: 25187
Location: Central Iowa
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You are doing better than I am on the Single cab. I did talk to my fabricator, and he said he could make about anything I wanted for it. frame wise.
I did get blankmange's engine torn down today.
I have seen that car in person, and Bob has a lot of work ahead of him, but I have seen him work, and it will get done.
_________________
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
Gary: OK. Ima poop. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for the kind words Russ. Yeah, I thought the "C" pieces for your trucks frame rails would be fairly easy to fabricate. Did he give you any ideas on the rear corner pieces? Those do have a pretty tight radius, although I could probably bend them in the press brake at work if you can't find someone local. 
Yeah, I took a few hours looking everything over before I pulled the body (mostly thinking, or as I like to call it... pre-planning), trying to figure out how I wanted to attack it. At one point I thought I'd pull the body off the Roadster, and use it's pan to help do the body fab, but then I thought that started to sound too much like work since I still had to do the Notch pan anyway. That is part of why I'm going to do the pans like a bug, then I'll put the front clip on, and then the rear portion using the doors to help get everything in place. Well at least that's the plan.
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notchback
Insensitive Jerk
Joined: December 16, 2003
Posts: 7024
Location: Behind the Zion Curtain
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You're a far better owner than I am for that car, Bob. I knew you wouldn't let me down. When I was considering what to do with it, I first thought about cutting it up, but there wasn't much there to part out. Then I remembered seeing the before pictures of the roadster and thought if anyone could do something with this car, you could. Those pictures of the roadster were what led me to offer you this car. Congrats.
BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own.
_________________
| zeen wrote: |
| Arguing with johnnypan is like mud-wrestling a pig. After a while you realize he just enjoys playing in the mud, winning the contest is not the point. |
FU#3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| notchback wrote: |
BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. |
I removed 1 side bolt, and that was in the left rear corner. I don't know why that one stayed good, as the right one was toast. The rest of the side pan bolts were only holding the rubber body seal (not that it was doing anything, as the metal was gone on both sides of the rubber). 
I am really wondering if I should have gotten more metal from you, off that Square, as I'm going to be fabbing a ton more pieces.
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notchback
Insensitive Jerk
Joined: December 16, 2003
Posts: 7024
Location: Behind the Zion Curtain
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Bobnotch wrote: |
| notchback wrote: |
BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. |
I removed 1 side bolt, and that was in the left rear corner. I don't know why that one stayed good, as the right one was toast. The rest of the side pan bolts were only holding the rubber body seal (not that it was doing anything, as the metal was gone on both sides of the rubber).
I am really wondering if I should have gotten more metal from you, off that Square, as I'm going to be fabbing a ton more pieces. |
I haven't hauled away the carcass yet. Also, I'm not ignoring you about the popouts, I just haven't remembered where I put them.
_________________
| zeen wrote: |
| Arguing with johnnypan is like mud-wrestling a pig. After a while you realize he just enjoys playing in the mud, winning the contest is not the point. |
FU#3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JSMskater
Samba Grease Gorilla
Joined: February 01, 2006
Posts: 5362
Location: Murrieta California
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
that thing is gonna be badass when its done!
id like to see it in person in saline
is that an azure dash column and steering wheel?!
_________________
71 Squareback-FI -- 73 Bay (subaru powered)
TOOB Member #3
I make D-jet FI connectors |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Russ Wolfe
Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2004
Posts: 25187
Location: Central Iowa
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If you need any parts off the white parts car, you are welcome. I do need the doors and the rear corners. I think you looked the 71 fastback over, and it is pretty bad, but maybe there may be something you can use.
I want the pan and running gear.
_________________
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
Gary: OK. Ima poop. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notchback
Insensitive Jerk
Joined: December 16, 2003
Posts: 7024
Location: Behind the Zion Curtain
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| JSMskater wrote: |
that thing is gonna be badass when its done!
id like to see it in person in saline
is that an azure dash column and steering wheel?! |
And I get to drive it while it's there! 
_________________
| zeen wrote: |
| Arguing with johnnypan is like mud-wrestling a pig. After a while you realize he just enjoys playing in the mud, winning the contest is not the point. |
FU#3 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tram
Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003
Posts: 22711
Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| JSMskater wrote: |
that thing is gonna be badass when its done!
id like to see it in person in saline
is that an azure dash column and steering wheel?! |
Not in 1971...
_________________
Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
| Bryan67 wrote: |
| Just my hands. And a little lube. No tools. |
To best contact me, please use the EMAIL function in my profile |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
t3kg
Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2006
Posts: 2712
Location: Los Angeles
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Russ Wolfe wrote: |
If you need any parts off the white parts car, you are welcome. I do need the doors and the rear corners. I think you looked the 71 fastback over, and it is pretty bad, but maybe there may be something you can use.
I want the pan and running gear. |
Oh, I'm looking for a few piecs, but I didn't know how soon you'd be ready to cut up that 69. I mean I did give you a couple of differnt ideas to play with. Yeah, your 71 is almost as bad as mine. Fortunately my tetnus shots are up to date, and I'm used to working on rusty Michigan vehicles.
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobnotch
Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003
Posts: 22410
Location: Kimball, Mi
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| notchback wrote: |
| Bobnotch wrote: |
| notchback wrote: |
BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. |
I removed 1 side bolt, and that was in the left rear corner. I don't know why that one stayed good, as the right one was toast. The rest of the side pan bolts were only holding the rubber body seal (not that it was doing anything, as the metal was gone on both sides of the rubber).
I am really wondering if I should have gotten more metal from you, off that Square, as I'm going to be fabbing a ton more pieces. |
I haven't hauled away the carcass yet. Also, I'm not ignoring you about the popouts, I just haven't remembered where I put them. |
Cool, I need to get some more stuff off you. I'll send you a pm, of what I'm looking for/need. I was going to send you a PM or e-mail anyway, looking for something else to go with this project. Maybe a little later this evening.
_________________
Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
| Tram wrote: |
| "Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
| Tram wrote: |
| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
