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bciesq Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 495 Location: Orlando, FL
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: Re: what are missing? |
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pewe_kodok wrote: |
I recently buy used stock air cleaner for my 181.
as you can see, there is a hole between breather port and heatriser port.
anyone know what actually missing there?
then this pic from thingshop
there is no hole, but shiny metal there...
what is it? and the function?
I have one last question. it is okay to use this carb sleeve? (plz look at below)
it is possible the carb suck air from the sleeve's lip? because the lip is worn and not tightly close air passage.
in other word, need to find other good sleeve
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The part that you are missing is a hinge connected to a flap in the intake. The hinge has a brass weight on it so that it closes (or in my case, flops between open and closed) at low air speeds, i.e., idle. At higher speeds the force of the intake air will keep it open. My *guess* is that the flap maintains a smoother airflow and/or faster airflow at idle which could have a number benefits in either the efficiency of the filter or in the flow to the carb. Or it could just be a device to keep the gasses from the breather system from spilling out of the front of the filter at low speeds -- again, I'm just guessing here.
I don't know if you can buy that part separately, but the filter should (mostly) work without it.
As for the connection to the carb, is there enough "meat" on the part so as to get a clamp on there? As long as the clamp can form a good seal, it should work. _________________ '73 Thing -- making 45 mph exciting again. |
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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thinghunter wrote: |
At a show in 2003 on a 76 or 78 Thing from Mexico I saw a paper element Thing air cleaner with a 181 part # that mounted in the same location as the oil bath... |
Hello
I was in Mexico with some members of the Club Safari some days ago.
I took a picture of this paper element Safari air cleaner.
http://www.181spirit.com/portail_phpBB/modules/mx_...ic_id=1692
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Pierre-J MACUA |
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thinghunter Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2004 Posts: 403 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, that's exactly what I want. You didn't happen to get a part # off it did you. I had a contact in Mexico that thought he could locate a NOS one if I could get him the part #. I'm not sure I could still get ahold of him but a part # would be one step closer to my goal. Thanks at least for the better pic as mine was on the car. Think you could get me a hookup on getting one????
pjmacua wrote: |
thinghunter wrote: |
At a show in 2003 on a 76 or 78 Thing from Mexico I saw a paper element Thing air cleaner with a 181 part # that mounted in the same location as the oil bath... |
Hello
I was in Mexico with some members of the Club Safari some days ago.
I took a picture of this paper element Safari air cleaner.
http://www.181spirit.com/portail_phpBB/modules/mx_...ic_id=1692
Regards
Pierre-J MACUA |
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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"thinghunter", you have a PM.
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Pierre-J MACUA |
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thinghunter Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2004 Posts: 403 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Pierre now if only I can find one. |
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racer_dude Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Oak Hills, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Ferretkona wrote: |
racer_dude wrote: |
looking to sell the lift? |
How did I miss that? What kind of lift? I have 220 and full air, ready for any lift! Well, except for old hydraulic lifts! |
umm.. i think i was referring to the thing 3" body lift. what are YOU looking to get rid of? |
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pewe_kodok Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2006 Posts: 64 Location: Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: size breather hose? |
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I had measured breather port at air cleaner (stock air cleaner) it is 1/2 inch
but when I measured breather port at oil filler assy it is 3/4 inch
which one is correct?? 1/2 or 3/4 inch?
do I use wrong oil filler assy? I use oil filler assy without any tube into crankcase... |
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howiesfamily Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2004 Posts: 858 Location: Panther City, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I found this oil bath air cleaner but it looks different than what I've seen before. It's a lot shorter. He says its for a Thing and the arm that goes to the carb looks right, but the body just looks different. Anybody know anything about this one? Does it use the same mounting bracket as the longer bodied one?
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Old bus air cleaner. I have one just like it.. |
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caseydenise Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2004 Posts: 1637 Location: The Great Swamp, NJ
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: stock cleaner air |
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Captain Spalding wrote: |
Here's a picture from the gallery:
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In this picture I am missing the large tube that brings air from under the lower tin. I don't know where to get this tube from. I am also missing (like the picture) the hose from the oil fill to the air cleaner. thanks! _________________ Central Jersey Volkswagen Society - President |
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Towel Rail Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005 Posts: 4622 Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Casey, that breather hose from the oil filler to the aircleaner has a 12mm ID, and FWIW, is the same size as the hose supplied with the Bugpack breather box kit. Rubber tubing with a 1/2" ID would probably work. Make sure you cut the aircleaner end at an angle so it doesn't "bottom out" and block the airflow when inserted into the port on the aircleaner.
As for the warm air "stove pipe", my Thing always ran fine without one, but you might be able to save a couple of bucks and use the 1968-1974 Bug part, 113119519G.
Somebody feel free to smack me down if that won't fit.
Hope this helps,
- Scott _________________ 1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
049 > 070 > 053 > 009 |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: |
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kubelmann wrote: |
Old bus air cleaner. I have one just like it.. |
Old as in 68-71. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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