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jsteelio
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 Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: '73 Beetle - how to tighten oil tube bolt? (picture inside) |
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Sorry for opening a new post, but I though a picture would help since I'm not sure of the proper names of what I'm trying to describe.
I'm trying to tighten the bolt that holds what I believe is called the oil tube. Right now there is not enough thread exposed from this bolt to reassemble my oil screen, gaskets, and oil plate. I have tried several tools to get to this bolt with no luck. Please help me! 
Yesterday I was able to tighten this bolt by tighten a nut on it then loosening the nut which started turning the bolt instead of loosen the nut giving me more thread to work with. But as I reassembled everything and tried to tighten the nut to this bolt the bolt began turning (loosening) instead of the nut tightening giving me less thread again. I'm hoping if I can tighten the bolt with a tool that I can avoid it loosening when I try to tighten a nut on it. Hope this makes sense.  |
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DrDarby
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You need to get up inside with a thin 8mm wrench or needle nosed vice grips. I've done it myself. Once you get it tight you are going to need to chase the threads on it as I would assume there is a bunged up spot on the threads that is causing this. Replace all the oil sumps acorn nuts with new ones while you are at it.
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shano63 
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I don't think that bolt tighten's anything. I think they are just studs screwed into the case for the oil screen and gasket. If you can back it out all the way and clean it up along with the nut that goes on it, Then you can thread them back in at the same time. That's what I would try. How many gaskets are you using for the screen??
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ScottK
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| shano63 wrote: |
| I don't think that bolt tighten's anything. |
I believe he is talking about the stud with a nut on the inside of the case that secures the oil pickup tube. |
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jsteelio
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| shano63 wrote: |
| I don't think that bolt tighten's anything. I think they are just studs screwed into the case for the oil screen and gasket. If you can back it out all the way and clean it up along with the nut that goes on it, Then you can thread them back in at the same time. That's what I would try. How many gaskets are you using for the screen?? |
I'm using two gaskets. One on each side of the screen. |
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jsteelio
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| ScottK wrote: |
| shano63 wrote: |
| I don't think that bolt tighten's anything. |
I believe he is talking about the stud with a nut on the inside of the case that secures the oil pickup tube. |
Yes..that is what I'm talking about. So this one stud is the same as the other 5? It just has a bolt attached to it inside the case? |
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jsteelio
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| DrDarby wrote: |
| You need to get up inside with a thin 8mm wrench or needle nosed vice grips. I've done it myself. Once you get it tight you are going to need to chase the threads on it as I would assume there is a bunged up spot on the threads that is causing this. Replace all the oil sumps acorn nuts with new ones while you are at it. |
Will these work?
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=91324-281-6LN-3&lpage=none
Also, how do I chase the threads? |
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DrDarby
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Yes the vice grips will work. Remember you are going into the engine for the head of the bolt fot tightening NOT the threads.
You'll have to look up the thread size & pitch and get the proper sized die to clean up the threads.
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Cusser
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Actually, there are bent-nose needlenose Vise Grips available, we have three different sizes at work, and I have two sizes at home. Unfortunately, I believe the large and the small were discontinued.
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