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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: External BBQ off the Propane Reply with quote

I want to be able to run my small BBQ grill when I'm at the beach.So I got all the parts together.I bought a propane Tee fitting and it needs to go in front of the regulator.Adding this will push the Y fitting on the end of the regulator too far forward and will kink the copper tubing.I plan on cutting the tubing off close to the body and add a 90deg elbow pointing it to the front of the van.Then bend a 180 deg bend in the tubing to get it to line up with the Y fitting on the end of the regulator.

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How tight of a radius can you bend a 180 bend in some 3/8 dia tubing?
I haven't played around with it yet so I'm asking here.Oh I did buy the spring type of tubing benders.Thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you thought of using the double braided flexible rubber gas tubing? The industrial propane place I took my tank to suggested I use that instead of the 25 year old, aging copper lines. It seems like it would make things a lot simpler.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you thought of using the double braided flexible rubber gas tubing?


I'll check that out.I'll go look at Grangers.Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Now Were Talkin!! Reply with quote

New set up on my tank:
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And tonights dinner:
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I had to do a dry run to make sure all is good for Big Wed at San O.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

70coupyel -

Thanks for the lead to your post! You solved the problem I was stumped with...the copper tubing

It looked like you were having a good time at the So Cal BBQ gathering. I'll have to get out there for the next one.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Glenn,
Good to meet you at the BBQ the other day. Your external BBQ set-up was so sweet!!! I want to install that T-fitting for an external BBQ while I'm running new lines to my tank.
1.) Where did you get the T-fitting
2.) Why before the regulator? I'm assuming the BBQ itself has to have a built in regulator since most BBQ tanks don't have a regulator.
3.) Do you have to cap the T-fitting when your not using it but still using the stove/fridge?
Thanks again for the help.
P.S. I'm already scouting out potential picnic sites down at Doheny State Beach. Great location with bathrooms/hook-ups/picnic area/surfing/bike path/horseshoes...etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

70coupyel -

There are occasions that I camp out in one spot for a month at a time and the closest place to fill the propane is an hours drive away. Is it safe to say that you can use that T-fitting to tap a 5 gallon BBQ tank into the house propane when camping for long periods of time?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are occasions that I camp out in one spot for a month at a time and the closest place to fill the propane is an hours drive away.

There's a man of whom I envious...
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Is it safe to say that you can use that T-fitting to tap a 5 gallon BBQ tank into the house propane when camping for long periods of time?

Yes, it absolutely will work. And, what a great idea. I'm gonna put one of those on mine as soon as I take care of that little blown engine problem first.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/lp-gas/50525.htm
you can get the kit cheaper other places like Ebay
It's called "Extend a stay"
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mightyart wrote:
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/lp-gas/50525.htm
you can get the kit cheaper other places like Ebay
It's called "Extend a stay"
I don't think he said what he paid for his setup. I'll almost bet he didn't pay as much.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think he said what he paid for his setup. I'll almost bet he didn't pay as much.

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Good question!

70coupyel, how much did it cost you? Where did you buy it?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! $70.00 for a T-fitting and 12' of hose? I hope that T-fitting can be made a lot cheaper than that. I guess it's off to the propane store...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Hose Kit Reply with quote

So here's my hose story.I did some lookin around the net at some RV supply stores.It seemed like the fitting was going for the $40-50.$30 bucks for the hose plus postage.I went to Long BeachRV Supply to get some propane.While waiting for them to fill me up I was looking around inside.Well they had this kit:

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As you can see I paid $99.95 Shocked When I was in the store of course you know your paying too much but it was in my hand and I bought it.After half a##ed looking on the net, I thought $70-80 + shipping off the net or walk away with one. Rolling Eyes

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And jezzz I miss half a day around here and you all are talking in front of my back. Surprised
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other side note is that I am planning on making a small rock shield to protect the copper tubing.Just something simple and just use the front bolt from the shield that is already there.Some very cheap insurance.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are occasions that I camp out in one spot for a month at a time and the closest place to fill the propane is an hours drive away. Is it safe to say that you can use that T-fitting to tap a 5 gallon BBQ tank into the house propane when camping for long periods of time?

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I'm diggin the marine grill mounting position!

I mounted mine to the trailer, its nice cause I can just throw the cover on it and go/no storage issues, but it has to be somewhat level to cook correctly:

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The scavengers always come out when the "srimp on a stick" hit the grill Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice setup Markus! I cant see the grill well enough, Is that the Magma Newport Grill? I love the Newport, my dad has one on his sailboat. With out a trailer to tote my grill, I had to go for the smaller Marine Kettle 2. Now I just have to get around to tapping it into the house propane!

As I have received several requests of where I got my grill, I figured I would just post it here. It's from West Marine, i.e. built for boats, i.e. $$$$. As West Marine's address directly to the Magma grill seems to change, just go to www.westmarine.com and do a search.

Here are links to Magma's site -

http://www.magmaproducts.com/Products/Marine_Products/Gas_Barbeque_2/Gas_005/gas_005.html
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the mount is item E on this page --
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a tournament grill from Boaters world. Its pretty much the newport only a little more ghetto, quite a bit cheaper and it comes with the little table.
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I like it but the regulator does not work like it should for the price of the grill and the piezo ignitor tip melted and does not work (agian I think from the regulator)

I mounted it by modifiying a spare tire mount, I wanted something pretty stout to keep it from shaking apart or off the trailer, so far so good, made it through some liong bouncy trips!!! I might look into some sort of mounting like you have though, as I just agreed to buy a 12 foot Carolina skiff boat for the purpose of using at alot of our water oriented campouts so my current trailer will not be used as much unless attached to a buddies Westy. The skiff is an open hull center console so I can throw all my crap in there!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn you guys sre blowing my Walmart special away big time!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

70Coupe,

I actually disagree, since your setup is more flexible (heh, more )flexible - get it? Rolling Eyes ); anyway, I was at the RV store over on Sand Canyon and I-5, and saw an interesting, but slightly different set-up:

Referring to your picture, they had an optional 3 outlet connector that adds on in place of your two outlet connector after the regulator. In your current setup, the gas runs through the regulator to both gas lines (fridge/stove) which come off a connector. This connector is also available in a 3 opening setup. I'm thinking that I'll have El Toro RV check my tank/system for leaks, and add that connector on so I have a 3rd option, should I wish it (I'm thinking about adding a gas heater, among other things).

I looked around online for a few minutes, and couldn't find a picture of what I was looking for, but when I do, I'll post it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lanval,
For what it's worth, I did not have very good success with those guys off of sand canyon. Mutual propane in Tustin is a great place with VERY experienced (with WESTY's) staff. I think his name is Jose! It's right off the 55 (one off ramp before REI if your heading north).
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