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empiparts Samba Member
Joined: November 10, 2003 Posts: 28 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: 356 drums on a 1957 bus |
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Does it works without any modify? Has anyone done it before? What should I use? 356B?
Every info welcome.
Thanks!!!
Regards,
[email protected] _________________ 52 Oldspeed Ragtop
53 Zwitter convertible
53 Westy Wolfsburg Trailer
57 semaphored 23 Window
66 Sprintstarred 21 Window
67 DC needs resto - need NOS sheetmetal
67 oldschool Cal Look BRM'ed beetle with factory Ragtop
74 1303 convertible
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stefi.g Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Czech
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: 356 drums on a 1957 bus |
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I used complet 356B brakes on my Bus 1966,small modifications
I will send you some pics. |
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cassa Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Just out of interest, why would you want to put 356 brakes onto your bus? I know they will be better than the standard brakes but it would be much cheaper to just go for a bay disc front end and will give you even better stopping than the 356 brakes. This way you don't ruin a perfectly good and hard to come by and expensive set of 356 drums by modifying them and you save money and you get even better brakes . And you get to keep those rare 356 brakes for your future 356 restoration or sell them to someone else who needs them which will probably pay for your bay disc brake conversion . You are the winner on all counts! |
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stefi.g Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Czech
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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but if you have all your 356 projects ready and have also split window bus
awaiting for restore I prefer to do old school tune up from these time.
I have bus 1962 just used together with brakes from 1961 model B,it is very sexy also 356 engine you need to put inside. |
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stefi.g Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Czech
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mpribanic Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3177 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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stefi.g wrote: |
some pics....
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empiparts Samba Member
Joined: November 10, 2003 Posts: 28 Location: Europe
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: A B - brakes |
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Thank You all for the update, it has been a long time already I know, but the plans went into the freezer untill now (winter is coming up here in Belgium). Is there something I need to know before I would start. For example another thing that came up in my mind:
Should I use A brakes together with the old style busbeam
Should I use B brakes together with the busbeam from a 66?
Or could I swap among each other?
I have a '57 bus but I also have a later style beam available... _________________ 52 Oldspeed Ragtop
53 Zwitter convertible
53 Westy Wolfsburg Trailer
57 semaphored 23 Window
66 Sprintstarred 21 Window
67 DC needs resto - need NOS sheetmetal
67 oldschool Cal Look BRM'ed beetle with factory Ragtop
74 1303 convertible
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stefi.g Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Czech
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: A B - brakes |
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I think the old beams will work together withe Porsche A or B brakes without any modifications, the 1966 are bigger and have another diameter of teh beams,there you neeed bushing modifications.
also it works on the rears
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empiparts Samba Member
Joined: November 10, 2003 Posts: 28 Location: Europe
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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To move on, I need a set, anybody selling a complete set of brakes? fronts and rear.
Kurt. _________________ 52 Oldspeed Ragtop
53 Zwitter convertible
53 Westy Wolfsburg Trailer
57 semaphored 23 Window
66 Sprintstarred 21 Window
67 DC needs resto - need NOS sheetmetal
67 oldschool Cal Look BRM'ed beetle with factory Ragtop
74 1303 convertible
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mpribanic Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3177 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida
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derRHDmeister Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2004 Posts: 560 Location: worldwide
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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ok im curious what are the difference between finned and smooth drums? Are they progressive refinements or just a preference of style (A or B)? Was it just an option at the dealership?
which sets are desirable now? smooth or finned?
I have a complete set of 356 finned drums off a '57 356 as i was told. Along with matching 57 lemmerz rims (5) they all will be mounted on my 57 rhd. heres a picture of the drums- i intend to polish the drums and leave og paint on the wheels & Run them w/out hubcaps.
Also id like to know more about FAT CITY GERMAN MOTORING in seattle, WA? anyone with info or history? I have their old shop/ex-rally car and am trying to piece together history on the car.
Many thanks in advance _________________ Ask not what your bus can do for you, but ask what you can do for your bus.
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mpribanic Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3177 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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derRHDmeister wrote: |
ok im curious what are the difference between finned and smooth drums? Are they progressive refinements or just a preference of style (A or B)? Was it just an option at the dealership?
which sets are desirable now? smooth or finned?
I have a complete set of 356 finned drums off a '57 356 as i was told. Along with matching 57 lemmerz rims (5) they all will be mounted on my 57 rhd. heres a picture of the drums- i intend to polish the drums and leave og paint on the wheels & Run them w/out hubcaps.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/DEAFpowered/JAN11043.jpg[/img]
Also id like to know more about FAT CITY GERMAN MOTORING in seattle, WA? anyone with info or history? I have their old shop/ex-rally car and am trying to piece together history on the car.
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I could be wrong...But I believe your finned drums are B drums. My '58 coupe has the smooth drum with a couple of fins running the circumference of the drum. Not sure why anyone would upgrade to B drums... _________________ Call your Cunado's:
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joe h. Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2005 Posts: 782 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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IMO, I wouldn't upgrade to finned if I had a 356A. However, for a VW the finned B brakes look better and perform better.
Can you guess what's going on my car?
DerRHDmeister, Sorry I don't know much about Fat City, but I do drive by there ocasionally. Send me a pic, and if I get some time I could drop by and ask. |
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derRHDmeister Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2004 Posts: 560 Location: worldwide
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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i dont have the pictures of the car in its former condition so maybe you could ask someone who worked there for many years if there was any oval ragtop that they used to have as a shop/rally car? It used to have an okrasa and motometer rally gauges, 356 drums and other stuff. polar silver originally with blue interior. If theres pictures of it in their shop office that would be but a wishful thinking?
the drums- A or B? so its an upgrade or smooth drums are better? im not sure what the difference are? just looks or performance? Im not a 356 expert so what are differences between 356A and 356B?
joe h, looks like we have same drums or am I blind? looks nice! what car are they going on? _________________ Ask not what your bus can do for you, but ask what you can do for your bus.
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Teeroy Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2003 Posts: 3682 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: 356 drums on a 1957 bus |
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A drums have grooves, B drums are finned. They weren't available at the same time, A came on the older cars, B was the next/newer drum, and C was disc _________________ Pres. Rivercity VW Club www.rcvwclub.org
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joe h. Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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joe h, looks like we have same drums or am I blind? looks nice! what car are they going on? |
They will be going on my "vintage speed" '54. 356 wheels and brakes, Okrasa power, and other speed accessories. I've now collected everything I need for it so now the fun begins.
I will drop by Fat City sometime and ask around. That sounds like a very cool car. Take some pics! |
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