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bucko Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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I would buy, especially on the rear drivers side. It's darn near impossible to clean that glass on the inside behind the closet. A slider window setup would fix that, so long as we can get to the bottom tab "locker" that lets it slide.... _________________ Current VW drives: 1984 Westfalia
Past VW drives: 1967 Beetle, 1973 Beetle, 1977 Bus, 1971 Military Type 181 |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: Rear Jalousie window |
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How's this?
If they didn't post try going to
http://picasaweb.google.com/dnd.obryan/JalousieWindows
I love the flow thru ventilation especially when it's raining.
Dave O
'87 Westy
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McVanagon Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 1684 Location: Northern part of the Virginia
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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dobryan wrote: |
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_________________ '69 Mike
'85 GL
'87 Wolfsburg Hardtop |
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bucko Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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McVanagon wrote: |
dobryan wrote: |
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Interesting. Got any details, like, where did you get them, or how did you make them? _________________ Current VW drives: 1984 Westfalia
Past VW drives: 1967 Beetle, 1973 Beetle, 1977 Bus, 1971 Military Type 181 |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Yes. I used this article
http://www.everybus.com/dworkin/vgon_jalousie/
as a guide.
I double checked the dimensions against the glass I removed from the Westy to get the right fit. I obviously had to extend the rear side piece to match the curved shape of the original window, and I had to remove the glass and cut down the frames to be shorter for the passenger side one. No big deal really, just some tedious work.
BTW, I was also able to get a set of seals for the Jalousie windows that included all the little seals around and between the window panes so they seal real nice.
This has totally transformed the comfort of the Westy. I really do get great flow thru ventilation even on very hot days, and don't have to worry about rain coming in. I can get a breeze across my face when I am sleeping on a hot muggy night.
It also is great for expelling heat from the Dometic fridge area since I can keep the window open behind the fridge in all weather.
It's a great way to go if you've got the time and patience. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746794 |
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1890 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the kind words. There is one other option I would consider, since i saw how easily the frame could be reworked, i thought a nice pop out window, like the ones I have on my Beetle 1/4 widows would be cool. Oh how i like to dream........, any one want to donate some Beetle pop out frames. I figure two of those shold be able to do one rear window. |
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msinabottle Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3492 Location: Denver Area, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: LUST! Oh, LUST! |
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That double Jalousie job is just... about... perfect. That is exactly what I need for summer camping and rain in Winston.
Plot, plot, plot, scheme...
Will raid wrecks for the window frames, just for starters... And maybe I can find a good source for rebuilt jalousies...
LUST!
Best! _________________ 'Winston,' '84 1.9 WBX Westy
Vanagon Poet Laureate: "I have suffered in
many ways, but never, never, never in silence." |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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The jalousies I started with were in rough shape. But after some elbow grease with sandpaper and steel wool I was able to take off the old oxidation from the aluminum and they shined up real nice. I also rescreened them (just like doing a screen door). The frame extension is made from scrap aluminum which is then bonded to the original jalousie frame like in the drawings. Not hard to do but a PITA. I definitely found the use of a table saw and a router to be a BIG help.
This arrangement works so well that I never even open the sliding window on the sliding door anymore. That is good because that window always screeched at me. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746794 |
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motelvw Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2005 Posts: 465
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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dobryan, can you open the sliding door with the jalousies open?
BTW, beautiful job on those windows. It's on my someday list. |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I can open the slider. In fact the pic I showed is the amount that the rear window will open and let the sliding door clear it. I always open the sliding door first and then look as I open the jalousie to see how far I can open it before it will interfere with the door. My last step in this project it to put a stop in the jalousie so I can't open it too much.
I'm glad you like it. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746794 |
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msinabottle Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3492 Location: Denver Area, Colorado
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: Beginning the Jalousie Project |
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I don't know if dobryan's still around, I recall no recent posts. I have a set of jalousies = 2 louvered windows on order from a Breadloaf salvage yard, they're also selling me seal rebuild kits and screens that the hardware store can repair.
The plan is to rebuild 'em, clean 'em up, and follow the old article for the passenger's side middle, and try to back-engineer what dobryan did on the rear passenger's side.
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One thought I had was to pull a rear passenger's rear window frame from a wreck and weld the Jalousies into that, with a plate attached to fill in the curved part and that painted. |
Okay, when were you guys ever going to tell me that there ARE no window frames?
I mean, there are for the sliding windows, but not for the glass on the rear passenger's side. So it'll be a matter of cutting a piece of metal to fit the window profile and attaching that to the rear jalousie. That'll be easier, but complicated... May have to leave the window out of the van for a bit, unpleasant thought.
I will do my usual verbose reporting on how it goes, but if anybody has any advice or specifics, I am scrabbling, groveling, and grateful for same.
I repeat...
Help!
Best! _________________ 'Winston,' '84 1.9 WBX Westy
Vanagon Poet Laureate: "I have suffered in
many ways, but never, never, never in silence." |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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msinabottle PM'd me asking for more information. I will start a new topic for this. Give me a few days to get my act together.
Glad everyone likes what I did.
BTW, On a hot day last summer I did an experiment. The outside temp was 93F and a gentle breeze was blowing. I put the bus in the driveway in full sun, opened the Jalousie windows the amount shown in the pics, put a thermometer inside on the stove top and waited. I was surprised that after one hour the inside temp was only 3 degrees above the outside temp. The great cross flow ventilation kept the inside from overheating. I'm sure the result would not have been as good without the gentle breeze.
Regards. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson
MD>Canada>AK>WA>OR>CA>AZ>UT>WY>SD
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620646
Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=695371
The Western Syncro build
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746794 |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16505 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Lanval Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hey MS,
If you're interested, these double Jalousie windows show up from time to time on the German Ebay; I was going to buy one a few weeks ago before the continuing existence of my engine became dicey.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Lamellenfenster-VW-Bus-T2-T3-Fe...dZViewItem
edit: Adding pic:
and another type of window; says its for a Joker model, though I'm a bit pressed to believe this is OEM... maybe I misunderstood the ad.
Won't be cheap, but would allow matching jalousie set up on both sides, or possible enable you to collapse the middle and use it in the rear passenger window.
if you need some translating or help in communicating with the seller, let me know. My German is passable.
Best,
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Classicvibe Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2009 Posts: 743 Location: Salt Lake City
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Resurrecting the dead here...
Wellington, did you ever mount that window? I would love to see pics of the finished product. _________________ On a mission, the destination is just an excuse.
Syncro Solstice 2022...see you there!
1986.5 Wolfsburg Syncro Westfalia Poptop Weekender Transporter |
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otiswesty Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1731 Location: Portland
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=958793
You can see one of Wellington's windows on the opposite side. He made 2 of them, lucky me. The driver's side factory window has no built in screen but with the window all the way open, I can insert a screen with 1" to spare and close the window holding the screen in place. It works well overnight for camping and ventilation of the downstairs sleeping space. I have not tried driving with the screen in because I worry about it falling out. _________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
1989 T3 Syncro Single cab
Just a regular guy |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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expensive......
the ones from south africa have the plastic vent included,latch is on vertical part of glass.225$ |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6247 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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If anyone wants the Jalouse windows, give these guys a call. http://airheadparts.com/ They had a stack of about 25 of them at a VW show I went to all for very cheap. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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spitsnrovers Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2005 Posts: 925 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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There is another option, as shown here http://www.griffco.ca/interest/ _________________ '88 VW Westfalia
'75 Triumph Spitfire 1500 |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thread Resurrection...
I was reading the Jalousie Window thread (having seen Winston's personally, they are quite impressive) I started thinking again about rear sliding windows. Has anybody tried RV replacement windows? I started looking around and saw this website:
http://www.motionwindows.com/prod1800.php
I figured it was a dead end until I saw the shape of the example window on their order worksheet:
http://www.motionwindows.com/order-summary-worksheet.pdf
I sent them an email to see if they've ever had their windows used in Vanagon applications, and/or whether or not they think it's possible. I haven't heard back yet. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
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