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iradi
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Start Engine Reply with quote

I have a very nice original 1.600 stock engine on a KG 1.974, the engine runs well and smooth but it do not start at the first attemp, I need to do 2 o 3 times and then start well.

Any ideas o help to resolve ?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirty plugs, old wires, fuel filter clogged, carb dirty, weak spark... could be any of those.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wires are new, the filter is clean, I will see the other issues.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard start in general is allmost allways corroded points. In your case it's probably the choke adjustment.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spark and the carb are ok, please help me to resolve this.

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need more info. Is the condition on all starts or only cold or warm starts? What is the timing set at? What does the spark look like?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I start the firts time in the morning it is perfect, at the firts try runs well, but the rest of the day I need to make 2 o 3 attemps. Only in the morning starts at first.

The timing ser looks ok, I use a stroboscopic light and the marks shows a little bit in the left of the split of the crakcase.

The sparks looks ok.

The engine runs well very iddle at 800 rpm.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still guessing but we are getting closer.
After it's warm where is your choke pointed? Full open? Look inside the carb is it leaking internally some? When you go to start warm do you pump it once, hold the throttle wide open or ___?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it is cold, the choke is in the upper position, then when it is warm go to the lower position.

I will look into the carb.

To start warm I turn the swicht trying without pumping, then If do not start I pump once o twice, then it starts.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it one pump before you start - warm or cold.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's wrong with just pumping once and hitting the key when it's warm? Don't take this wrong but this is not fuel injection and it's all figured out automatically for you. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ exactly,

If you don't pump it, the choke is stuck at the spot where it was when you last turned the vehicle off - if it was at full operating temperature, that means the choke flap is completely vertical - an engine that has cooled for a while may need a little bit of choke to help start it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to both, I will do this and let you know.

This will be on friday becuase I am traveling now.

Rgds.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hot or cold Starting Hints, as shown on page 19 of the 1974
Karmann Ghia Owner's Manual:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, it is really incredible that I receive the manual with the car and never, never read carefully this part.

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