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Bub Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 1155 Location: Central Washington
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: New people to VW's and Daily Drivers |
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You know..I'm not quite sure how to put this. I'm not really into other car makes- except to stay 'up-to'date' on the market or technology or just curiosity. But it does seem to me that there's an oddly large number of people, young and old, who are looking to buy a 35+ year old VW (many times their FIRST VW or even first car) as a daily driver. I guess my perspective on this is a little off since I've been driving them so many years. Even though my 1st car was a VW 17 years ago I wasn't looking for one specifically- it was just a car.
Just wondering about your opinions- are there other vintage/antique car makes that seem people seem to be looking at for daily drivers- and I don't see it because I'm not browsing other forums every day?
Or is it really that people are STILL drawn into a VW because of nostalgia or they still think it's cheap to "fix one up"- like it was 25 years ago?
I know quite a few people (and even more people know me because of my VW history in my backwards town) and I constantly have to steer them away from buying some old VW because they simply have no idea what they're doing or what it costs to resurrect an old VW. Not to mention what it is REALLY like to drive an old VW every day of the year. These days people just don't get it and think it would be "fun"- when in reality if you're not prepared, it can be a headache. Some people have what it takes, but most don't. I mean, you could EASILY go buy a 2 year old KIA for what a pre-67' bug in good shape will cost you to bring back from the dead and people I'm running into just don't see it.
Is this happening to some of you? _________________
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well umm.. Have you seen the price of gas lately _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
1963 Deluxe Turkis Walk Thru 15 Window OG Paint |
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turkish Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen it alot myself. Last one was a kid who wanted me to find him and a buddy a buss to fix up and go across country with. Never done mechanical work to ANY type of vehicle, let alone a vintage VW and he thought he could make it across country with a bus he fixed up for under $4k and no knowledge of how a Volkswagen works. Of course, he was completly convinced he could do it, especially since years ago he saw his dad work on a Chevy motor once |
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wsniderokc Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2007 Posts: 345 Location: oklahoma city, usa
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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i sell new fords for a living, and could get into one fairly easily if that were what i wanted to do, but for me, my 'vintage' air cooled vw IS fun to drive, i DO enjoy the upkeep, even though i'm not especially mechanically gifted, and i actually enjoy the 'hey, i used to have one of those... what year is it?' people i run into everywhere. for me it is a choice, and a choice i am glad i made. my old bug isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but i DO really love my car, even if it is a fat chick and not very collectible, etc. (it is one of the first ones made, august of 70)
as for a first car, i would recommend something with a little more safety and structure, --not to mention something i could sell that would put some cash in my own pocket-- but for an old dude like myself, i wouldn't have it any other way.
no ford jokes or commentary needed, everyone has their own preferences, and ford makes a pretty good product nowadays.
i just happen to prefer driving a car that is the same model year that i am. call me crazy.
the most amusing thing for me is that not a month goes by without someone making me an offer for my car. i won't sell for less than 8,000, and that number is WAAAAAAAYYYYY high for the car, but, then, it's not really for sale anyway! _________________ that's not an oil leak... it's sweat from the extra horse power! |
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alexs64 Samba Savior
Joined: January 17, 2005 Posts: 817 Location: Hold my pocket and I will tell you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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wsniderokc wrote: |
i sell new fords for a living, and could get into one fairly easily if that were what i wanted to do, but for me, my 'vintage' air cooled vw IS fun to drive, i DO enjoy the upkeep, even though i'm not especially mechanically gifted, and i actually enjoy the 'hey, i used to have one of those... what year is it?' people i run into everywhere. for me it is a choice, and a choice i am glad i made. my old bug isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but i DO really love my car, even if it is a fat chick and not very collectible, etc. (it is one of the first ones made, august of 70)
as for a first car, i would recommend something with a little more safety and structure, --not to mention something i could sell that would put some cash in my own pocket-- but for an old dude like myself, i wouldn't have it any other way.
no ford jokes or commentary needed, everyone has their own preferences, and ford makes a pretty good product nowadays.
i just happen to prefer driving a car that is the same model year that i am. call me crazy.
the most amusing thing for me is that not a month goes by without someone making me an offer for my car. i won't sell for less than 8,000, and that number is WAAAAAAAYYYYY high for the car, but, then, it's not really for sale anyway! |
After washing my car for the first time in about 5 months this past weekend. I have been approached at least 5 different times with people giving me their "I used to own...." stories. I like hearing them, but most times it is inbetween me having to be somewhere soon. So I don't get to talk as long as I would like. Good stories and bad stories, they have them all. _________________ (16:05:01) twinwindows: She prolly got a bigger dick then you
(16:05:07) sled: probably...
(16:05:12) VolksFire: chick with a dick
(16:05:17) sled: thats cool with me though
(16:05:20) twinwindows: A zwitter |
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oibovveroi Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2006 Posts: 744
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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the son-in-law of the guy across the street saw me outside doing an oilchange on mine and asked if it were for sale.
i told him 10 grand and he looked at me crazy.
well he said he was looking for something cheap(gas and the price for the car) to get to and from work.
told him to get a kia or something like that.
then told him some prices here in north alabama for vw's and he looked at me with that crazy look again.
because here in alabama when someone is selling an old car you get the "they dont make them anymore"spill.
well to topic most people still think of a vw as a cheap through away car i think.
and not good for a first car in the SUV world. |
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runslikeapenguin Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2005 Posts: 4674 Location: Federal way WA
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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i just helped my friend pull the engine from a 2007 honda SI and we did a few things and i was glad after i saw what he payed for his lowering kit, clutch, new oil pump, better motor mounts, and sway bars that i owned a VW. |
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66busman Samba Motorcyclist
Joined: September 14, 2006 Posts: 1166 Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Soon as school is out, I'll be riding my motorcycle or driving my bus everywhere. I guess you could say I'm new to VWs, since I've only had the bus 2 years. But, I've restored many motorcycles and the bus, so I know my way around them well enough to be confident in driving them around.
The problem is definitely people undervaluing old vws. An (ex)friend of mine once offered $1500 for my bus. I told him I wouldn't sell it in a million years. He asked what it was worth to me then, and when I told him $5k, he refused to believe it. He wanted it because he thought it would be cool to put a V8 in it _________________ '66 SO-42
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15 windowdelux Samba Goober
Joined: February 06, 2001 Posts: 432 Location: Hastings, Nebraska
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I run into the same situation where I work. Customers and others see my bug or squareback out front and come in to find out where they can get one. I usually ask what their intentions are before I try to set them up with one. Too many don't understand that it can be a labour of love to daily drive an air cooled. There are only about 3 in our town that actually drive theirs daily out of 25,000 people. There are plenty of VW's around but most are weekend drivers or just driven on special occations. Some never even see the light of day. _________________ My last fortune cookie said:
"A short saying oft contains much wisdom."
Why is it all I can think about now is George
Carlin's "Seven words you can't say on television"???? |
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1977_L63H_P27 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2006 Posts: 2345 Location: Bristol, Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I work in auto parts and a week doesn't go by that I don't hear at least one customer make an offhand comment like "if the price of gas keeps going up, i'm gonna' have to find a bug". If I have time I try to set them straight. What surprises me the most is age isn't a factor. Young and old alike perceive VW's as being thifty on gas and cheap to work on. But I can't get enough of the "I used to have..." stories. Even if most of them had Porsche engines . Peace! _________________
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sano66 Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2007 Posts: 386 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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I wanted a bug since i was a little kid. I drove a 95 Chevy truck for 4 years, spent a lot of money on the damn thing. An almost 5000 pound truck with a V6 and 33s gets about 8 mpg . Sold that problem to some kid that ended up wrecking it after NOT replacing the tierods like i told him he NEEDED to do. Rescued my bosses bug that sat in his garage being neglected, been driving it daily for a year. No problems except for a snapped clutch cable and rubbing cause i like it a little lowered . I enjoy it, but someday ill get myself a GTI or a Tacoma or something, and make my VW's toys. |
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langsmer Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2004 Posts: 1127 Location: CO/NM border
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I drove my 66 Rambler station wagon daily for a while. I liked that you could accelerate on highway on-ramps and fit well in it, but didn't like the millage the big eight cylinder got, and it was a pain in the ass to park. I went back to the bus. |
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