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birddog1148
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 Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: wont shift with empi shifter |
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I just converted a '69 autostick to a man and when I put the new empi shifter in I cant get 1st and 3rd.
I put the old autostick shifter but swaped the new empi plate for the old autostick plate and now I can get all the gears.
The hockey stick in the car has a slit for a pin and the original shifter has a pin on the ball but the empi doesnt, do I need a new hockey stick? Or can I drill the ball on the empi and put a pin in?
Any help is apreciated.
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Mark33563
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: wont shift with empi shifter |
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| birddog1148 wrote: |
I just converted a '69 autostick to a man and when I put the new empi shifter in I cant get 1st and 3rd.
I put the old autostick shifter but swaped the new empi plate for the old autostick plate and now I can get all the gears.
The hockey stick in the car has a slit for a pin and the original shifter has a pin on the ball but the empi doesnt, do I need a new hockey stick? Or can I drill the ball on the empi and put a pin in?
Any help is apreciated. |
slide the empi shifter towards the rear of the car (adjustment) and see if that works.
the slit is to keep the shifter from spinning. somewhat important on an early car as the shifter was bent. somewhat important on an autostick since there is a wire running up the side of the shift lever. but it makes no difference to an empi shifter as it does not spin due to the design and construction.
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towd
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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just a FYI,, the hockey stick is inside the trans,, what your talking about is the shift rod,, to refine that it's the ball socket
Your using the lock out plate ??? Bet it's a bitch bolting the shift er down .. you don't use the lock out plate with a quick shift.. |
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birddog1148
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Ok, the shift rod, tried moving it back, forward still only reverse 2nd and 4th. Only way I could get all 4 gears was with old shifter. The plate I used was a flat one that came with the empi, the original was weird looking. Will try to get some pics tonite.
Thanks for the help so far!
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Mark33563
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| birddog1148 wrote: |
Ok, the shift rod, tried moving it back, forward still only reverse 2nd and 4th. Only way I could get all 4 gears was with old shifter. The plate I used was a flat one that came with the empi, the original was weird looking. Will try to get some pics tonite.
Thanks for the help so far! |
How good is the bushing at the front and the coupler bushings at the tranny connection point?
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birddog1148
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I put a new urathane shift coupler in it, there is a little play in the pin itself, may put the original pin back in. There is a bushing on the shift rod itself ithink that may need replaced, it is split and just hanking on the shift rod back by the shift coupling.
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| i dont know if this is applicable to your problem but my Bugpack shifter came with a tiny tiny set of instructions that said something about grinding the little tip of a little dowel thing at the bottom of the shifter in certain cases. I didnt need to do and threw away so i cant tell you any more. |
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birddog1148
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Ok replaced the shift rod bushing, still cant get it right and it doesnt lock out of reverse, what am I doing wrong?!?
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birddog1148
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Drilled a new hole/divot in the hockey stick, seams to work. Think my shift rod was to short after conversion.
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Did you do the modifications on the shift rod when you converted it from auto to manual? It's been a long long time since ex-hubby did this but if I remember right something had to be welded on.
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| birddog1148 wrote: |
| Drilled a new hole/divot in the hockey stick, seams to work. Think my shift rod was to short after conversion. |
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| Did you do the modifications on the shift rod when you converted it from auto to manual? It's been a long long time since ex-hubby did this but if I remember right something had to be welded on. |
I helped a friend convert his '71 Ghia from auto to manual and I had to weld a piece on to his coupler to make up the 1" or so.
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birddog1148
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never thought of that, it would probobly be better.
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I believe the shift rod is different in an auto stick vs. the manual. That's probably why that coupler had a piece welded on. If you have a boneyard nearby, see if you can get a shift rod and change yours out.
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I believe the shift rod is different in an auto stick vs. the manual. That's probably why that coupler had a piece welded on. If you have a boneyard nearby, see if you can get a shift rod and change yours out.
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That's what we thought. We changed the shift rod with a new one from CIP and it was way too short.
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