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90volts Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2005 Posts: 2637
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: shortening clutch cable? |
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i have seen this a few places. how exactly is it supposed to work?
i took mine out today. this is how mine was done previously.
looks like it was a cable thsat was cut in two, some cable cut out, straight cut end from the cluster through this clamp along with the end portion, side by side, tightened down and then the threaded end goes as normal.
hoping to get it done by saturday for a show, so any help would be appreciated. thanks. |
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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I have done a bunch almost like yours, except I use three of these same clamps. Two facing one direction and the third in the middle facing the other direction. I have run them against a Kennedy stage two PP and no stretching/slipping. This way you can still use the stock wing nut. _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
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90volts Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2005 Posts: 2637
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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what type of clamp is it exactly then? maybe i'll just do that. its been working for as long as i've had it (5-6 years) with no issues and it was easy to remove. thanks |
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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In the picture you posted of the cable ends, the top one is for the clutch cable. A nut(which isn't shown) is threaded on the thick flat section, past the eye, almost to the point where it changes diameter The cable with the original threaded section cut off, is threaded though the eye in the flat section then bent double, away from the nut. The nut is tightened back against the bent over section of cable.
It will work for a year or so then the cable will snap. You need to learn how to double clutch to get home.
The best solution is to get a cable shortened by these guys.
http://www.push-pull.com/index.html |
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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90volts
The one in your picture is just a standard cable clamp. I purchase them at either my local hardware or at Lowes. Because or rust issues, I try to get either stainless ($) or galvanized. The later ones cost about $ 1.89 each on my last buggy build this spring. _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
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aquamanx Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I had trouble with the cable slipping out of the clamp when done like yours. If you have enough cable, loop each end together and clamp the loops never had any problems that way.
Kinda hard to see but this is the only pic I have.
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ManxBug Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2007 Posts: 311 Location: Edmonton Alberta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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aquamanx wrote: |
I had trouble with the cable slipping out of the clamp when done like yours. If you have enough cable, loop each end together and clamp the loops never had any problems that way.
Kinda hard to see but this is the only pic I have. |
That's how mine was done too. But I have one of those Empi kits for backup if it ever breaks. _________________ Air Riders, VW Club |
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90volts Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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yeah...not just an adjustment! there was my scratching noise.
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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joescoolcustoms wrote: |
I have done a bunch almost like yours, except I use three of these same clamps. Two facing one direction and the third in the middle facing the other direction. I have run them against a Kennedy stage two PP and no stretching/slipping. This way you can still use the stock wing nut. |
Thats how I did mine in 2003 no problems to this day ............knock on wood! _________________ burning down the house
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'77 transporter, junked had crotch rot.
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kustoms Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 1313
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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vdubyah73 wrote: |
joescoolcustoms wrote: |
I have done a bunch almost like yours, except I use three of these same clamps. Two facing one direction and the third in the middle facing the other direction. I have run them against a Kennedy stage two PP and no stretching/slipping. This way you can still use the stock wing nut. |
Thats how I did mine in 2003 no problems to this day ............knock on wood! |
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GetPsycho Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2004 Posts: 1440 Location: The Frayed Ends of Sanity
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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This is how I did mine.
_________________ SOME MORNINGS IT'S JUST NOT
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Stock length cable, Loop it, install 2 cable clamps, Done,no cutting needed,Madmike _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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kustoms wrote: |
vdubyah73 wrote: |
joescoolcustoms wrote: |
I have done a bunch almost like yours, except I use three of these same clamps. Two facing one direction and the third in the middle facing the other direction. I have run them against a Kennedy stage two PP and no stretching/slipping. This way you can still use the stock wing nut. |
Thats how I did mine in 2003 no problems to this day ............knock on wood! |
Ya know, The next time you go for a drive it will fail. |
That is why I thumped myself in the head after typing that. You know I can be a knothead at times. _________________ burning down the house
73 bounty hunter, sold.
'77 transporter, junked had crotch rot.
Dubless, but have a CPR built stroker waiting for a new to me Beetle
'93 Fleetwood Bounder 34' |
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90volts Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2005 Posts: 2637
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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this bend int he clutch cable normal? haven't been able to get the threaded end through it. the story is, all tubes are cut in the tunnel. dropped the shift rod to get back there. threaded end comes out of the front half tube, i align it into the rear portion. threaded part goes fully in then stops. i have no leverage to really shove it. i think it is getting stuck at this bend.
cut the bad cab;e to get it out. PO may not have been able either, the cable was cut then clamped to the threaded end remember? the cab;e will go through no problem without thread. also tried threaded end from rear to front and got stuck as well. i wanted to get a properly sized cable but if its not going through its a waste of cash. |
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just cut it and clamp it fer crying out loud. The clamps pictured are the same type used to hold cables as thick as your leg together. These clamps are used on tow truck cables, roll off container truck winches, cranes, tug boat cables and prolly aircraft carrier arresting gear cables. You guys think to much. _________________ burning down the house
73 bounty hunter, sold.
'77 transporter, junked had crotch rot.
Dubless, but have a CPR built stroker waiting for a new to me Beetle
'93 Fleetwood Bounder 34' |
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MURZI Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 5063 Location: Madisonville, La
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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vdubyah73 wrote: |
Just cut it and clamp it fer crying out loud. The clamps pictured are the same type used to hold cables as thick as your leg together. These clamps are used on tow truck cables, roll off container truck winches, cranes, tug boat cables and prolly aircraft carrier arresting gear cables. You guys think to much. |
Yeah...but this looks waaaay cooler.
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calebmelvin Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2006 Posts: 3140 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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90volts wrote: |
this bend int he clutch cable normal? haven't been able to get the threaded end through it. the story is, all tubes are cut in the tunnel. dropped the shift rod to get back there. threaded end comes out of the front half tube, i align it into the rear portion. threaded part goes fully in then stops. i have no leverage to really shove it. i think it is getting stuck at this bend.
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I had the same problem trying to feed the cable through the tube on mine, I ended up cutting an clamping as others did just to stay sane. Give it a snip, double loop it for insurance... _________________ Caleb
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90volts Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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figured i would try to thread it through. oh well, snip it is then. thanks all. |
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Oil_Eater Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2006 Posts: 433 Location: CT
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: |
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aquamanx wrote: |
I had trouble with the cable slipping out of the clamp when done like yours. |
+1 here. This absolutely won't work if you go with a higher performance clutch/pressure plate set-up.
One clamp worked OK for my 1300 6V. When I switched to a 1600 12V pressure plate and clutch, one clamp slipped. I added another two clamps, just to be sure I didn't get stranded.
Finally, when I went to the Subaru engine with the stage II KEP pressure plate and clutch, I went with a custom shortened cable.
Hope this helps,
Jay |
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nightmanx11 Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2007 Posts: 549 Location: Downstate Illinois
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I gave up completely and went the hydraulic clutch setup. No problems since |
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