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Joker69 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 178 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: Changing the transmission fluid |
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So, being the good little newbie that I am, I just got my Bentley Manual and was browsing thorugh the Lubrication section.
I got to the tramission fluid change section which is something I am planning on doing since I have no idea when or if the PO had it changed.
Problem is, when I get to tyhe section on "Changing the transmission fluid", it only goes over how to check the level and add more if needed. It doesn't mention draining it.
Where do you drain the fluid so it can be changed out? I see where to fill it, but not drain it.
Thanks.... _________________ "The weather out there today is hot and shitty with continued hot and shitty in the afternoon. Tomorrow a chance of continued crappy with a pissy weather front coming down from the north."
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wompninja Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 2147 Location: Salt Lake City
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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On the bottom of the tranny is a huge allen head bolt. You need to find an allen wrench that will fit in there. Unscrew it and that's how you drain it. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76944 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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The drain plus is on the bottom under the differential.
REMOVE THE FILL PLUG FIRST. Because if you drain it first and can't get the fill plug out, you have problems. _________________ Glenn
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Joker69 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 178 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Is the fill plug also a allen head? That's what they seem to show in the Bentley anyway. They are BOTH allen heads?
Glenn> I will definately do that. Thanks for the tip. _________________ "The weather out there today is hot and shitty with continued hot and shitty in the afternoon. Tomorrow a chance of continued crappy with a pissy weather front coming down from the north."
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73stroker Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 285
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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yes _________________ 1973 standard Type 1
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neil68 Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2007 Posts: 3440 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: transmission |
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Both the filler plug and drain plug should be 17 mm allen key on your '69. I prefer using a 17 mm socket (bought at my local parts store or http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-7165), as it allows the use of a rachet, for leverage.
The drain plugs are usually magnetic, so you'll need to clean off any metal shavings. Don't over tighten the plugs when re-installing as the case can crack in some instances.
Good luck! _________________ Neil.
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Joker69 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 178 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent. Thanks guys. That'll be my next duty as soon as my shoulder heals up. _________________ "The weather out there today is hot and shitty with continued hot and shitty in the afternoon. Tomorrow a chance of continued crappy with a pissy weather front coming down from the north."
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: transmission |
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neil68 wrote: |
... Don't over tighten the plugs when re-installing |
14 ftlbs is all it needs. _________________
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whobba Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: |
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I am just now changing the transaxle fluid on my '78. I found that it's easier if you take the left rear wheel off - 'cause you can get right in there to the fill plug. I've been wondering though if I should use synthetic transaxle fluid like Redline. My mechanic friend recommended it.
The filler nut was on there really well, it took some serious muscle to get it going. The drain magnetic plug has been doing its job, as there were little specs of metal neatly clinging to the magnet. It was almost like a metallic dust. _________________ **SUPPORT THE SAMBA**
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Synthetic works really good in there, especially in colder weather.
Get one of those hand pumps that fit onto the hypoid fluid bottle, makes filling the tranny a lot easier.
I also prefer a socket for removing and filling the tranny. But when I got my first VW almost 20 years ago all I could find at the time was a giant Allen wrench, which also worked pretty good. |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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How are you folks changing the fluid without a lift if the car needs to be level? |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Four jack stands at equal height on level ground |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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I figured... |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Think the really cool people that lower the cars, |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Lol |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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What is the consensus about driving up in ramps. Draining, putting about 2.5 quarts in. Lightly putting fill screw in, drive down ramps and recheck level?
Also Muir warns against overfilling so you don't blow the seals out. I find it hard to understand how you could overfill it if the car is fairly level. Wouldn't it start leaking out once it was up to the bottom of the hole?
Also, a concern as always with transmissions in general is changing the oil. I've always heard the tale that when changing fluid out, when you add new, it can create leaks that weren't there beforehand... |
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Old n' slow Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2012 Posts: 619 Location: Western Maryland
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Frodge wrote: |
Also, a concern as always with transmissions in general is changing the oil. I've always heard the tale that when changing fluid out, when you add new, it can create leaks that weren't there beforehand... |
I know this was a concern years ago when synthetic fluids first became widely available.....I think it was because of more aggressive detergents and better flowing oil........it usually meant your seals were shot and crud was holding back the leaks. _________________ Currently own : 1969 Beetle w/ 1600cc, Single Port, Solex 30 PICT 2, Dist. 113 905 205 T, stock exhaust.
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Actually, the chance of under filling is as possible as overfilling. You can pump the oil in too fast, and you'll get oil coming out the fill hole. You may think you've filled it up, because it's leaking out the hole, but it just hasn't had time to settle in. So it's best to fill that last bit slowly, giving the thick oil time to settle and eventually leak out the fill hole. Overfilling can happen when you install the fill plug to keep from making a mess, and you jam the plug on before the excess oil has a chance to drain out the hole.
Slow and easy is the way to go.
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Is there any evidence, or is there anyone on here who has changed their hypoid oil and developed a leak at one of the seals? That is my main concern. I don't want to be pulling the motor and trans. |
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3333 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Changing the transmission fluid |
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Thats what she said _________________ "Albatross"! |
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