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spitsnrovers Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2005 Posts: 925 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: How long do they last? Exhausts |
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How long do you think an ordinary steel exhaust system should last? I'm sure there are a lot of variables - climate, driving distances, quality of metal, etc...
I had a a system installed November '05 and am noticing at least one hole, after the muffled in the tail pipe. I've also noticed piles of rust under the van when it sits for some time, particularly in winter (Canadian winter). It seems the system is just rusting and falling off in piles of dust.!
What are your experiences? Is stainless woth it? Is original VW worth the expense?
Appreciate any comments. |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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my dad told me a long time ago, how long your exhaust lasts will correlate closely with how much/little you drive. Short runs make condensation and then rust.
I bought my van 9 years ago, several long trips every year along with being a daily driver much of the time...I've replaced one muffler and nothing else in that time.
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vw8716v Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2008 Posts: 61 Location: The Jungle
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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not sure but i can tell you this im in the process of replacing mine on my 85 and its a pain in the ass by yourself to change it. they like putting the bolts in the most frustating places ant leas on the driverside in the back underneath the ac and behind a bracket and hoses. |
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dr. no Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2004 Posts: 578 Location: Santa Fe
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Both of mine have the originals, less the front crossover pipe on the WBX (cracked at the #1 bracket and replaced with another original one). Therefore, I think 25+ years is not too much to expect. This is not a wet or salty area, though. _________________ Scott
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'83.5 Westy s/p 1.6td JX and 4sp DK transplant--wonderful!
'86 MB 300GD
'06 MB Sprinter
'17 BMW X1
'89 Isuzu Trooper
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'82 NA diesel Vanagon
'86 7-passenger Vanagon
'77 Bay
'71 Bay
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Rhinoculips Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 918 Location: Keystone, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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First one, the original, lasted 18 years. Second one, installed last summer, looks like crap after one year. I am expecting only 5-10 years out of this one. _________________ “May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds.” - Edward Abbey
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bucko Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: |
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I've mentioned this before on threads pertaining to aftermarket exhausts (excluding TENCENTLIFE's system he'd designing); you get what you pay for. When folks start pricing a replacement for their 20 plus year old original exhaust, they balk at it's price, and buy the cheap aftermarket replacement. Then when that fails after a couple of short years, they end up going back and buying the stock replacement exhaust, which is what they should have done in the first place; ends up costing more.
Or, they buy yet another cheap aftermarket replacement, to replace the first cheap aftermarket exhaust. In that case, they should not be allowed to breed. _________________ Current VW drives: 1984 Westfalia
Past VW drives: 1967 Beetle, 1973 Beetle, 1977 Bus, 1971 Military Type 181 |
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Captain Pike Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 3343 Location: Talos IV, Piedmont Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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bucko wrote: |
Or, they buy yet another cheap aftermarket replacement, to replace the first cheap aftermarket exhaust. In that case, they should not be allowed to breed. |
Only with themselves _________________ LEARN TO SELF RESCUE
59 Panel bus, 1966 Single cab. 73' 181. 73 Westy. 91' H6 Vanagon 3.3L.
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BuffaloNyWesty Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2007 Posts: 51
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I just recently put on a new exhaust system (busdepot) i store the vehicle in a garage for the winter (non-climate controlled) my question_ has anyone heard of placing mothballs around the exhaust system to keep moisture down? |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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If you season the pipes with peanut oil it'll retard their rusting--especially in the salt belt,& PNW.
A little prevention will go a long way--especially as far as exhaust system's go--- _________________ T.K. |
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VWGeorge Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2004 Posts: 342
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhhh! The smell of fresh roasted peanuts. Jokeing aside that is an awsome tip for us poor souls in the midwest. In Chicago, if you listen very closely at night you can hear you volkswagen rust. I'm just happy that our cars rust a little slower than MGs. |
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klucz Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2006 Posts: 1062 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: |
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I think I just heard my muffler strap. _________________ 84 Westy 4spd sold |
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CapitolDubber Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2008 Posts: 46 Location: Salem OR
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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My van is on @ least #2, and a quality replacement is high up the list if I ever get it running.
Any recommendations on good aircooled exhausts? i want it loud and powerful |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10078 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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terryg Samba Member
Joined: January 20, 2006 Posts: 349
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't see anything that would fit a square port T4 on that site..... |
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