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Solomon Grundy Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2004 Posts: 747 Location: Silicon Valley
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: Looking for BN4 glow spark plug '411 963 319' part |
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Howdy Volks:
Finally got up the courage to install the BN4 heater that came with my Thing in a box when I bought it 15 years ago.
Ian Epperson, of VeeWiki, came over today and helped me get my `73 Eberspaecher heater going but it needs a glow spark plug 411 963 319. I had to borrow his to get it working...
Surprise is it works great and it did not blow up and sing my jewels... Happy me...
Of all the parts not working, it's such a simple item, but does not spark at all. No clue why, it looks very clean and undamaged.
If any of you folks have a nice extra one laying around I would like to buy it.
Secondarily I am also looking for a warm air vent - footwell "181 819 189 B".
The one that shoots into the cabin area behind the ashtray.
Thanks:
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howiesfamily Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2004 Posts: 858 Location: Panther City, Texas
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Ian Epperson Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2005 Posts: 2262 Location: Alameda, CA
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Ian Epperson Samba Member
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2003 Posts: 868 Location: Clifton Park NY Saratoga County
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I have both of those Used, in good condition.
I'll send the part, then you send payment.
I also have gas heater manuals.
Mike |
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Solomon Grundy Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2004 Posts: 747 Location: Silicon Valley
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thingguy Samba Member
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.
Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw? _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
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Ian Epperson Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2005 Posts: 2262 Location: Alameda, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Are you talking about the 2nd tab on the side of the plug? I'm not sure what it's for - I assume it's just the same as the tab on the other side.
Or are you asking why there's a center conductor along with a side tab? Well, it's a spark-glow plug. The side tab heats up a coil in the plug which (I think) vaporizes the fuel as it squirts into the chamber, then the center conductor fires a high-voltage charge a few times per second to spark the center of the plug and ignite the fuel. A bit after it lights, I believe that it stops sparking and just uses the heat side of the plug to keep vaporizing the fuel. _________________ VW-181 shirts and stickers.
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. The one you show has a second that is a ground. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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crofty wrote: |
The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. |
I think that the spark plug in your Thing is a BERU GZE 16 (one single pole)
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The one you show has a second that is a ground. |
The one in the picture maybe is a BERU GZE 13 (two poles).
You can use a BERU GZE 13 in a BN4 heater.
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Pierre-J M. |
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dan macmillan Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2003 Posts: 3110 Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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crofty wrote: |
Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.
Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw? |
That plug is for the BA6 heater. The poles are:
lower one is a ground,
upper one is the power connection for the glow plug portion _________________ Licensed Automotive Service Technician
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: |
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The plug for BA6 heater is sold here :
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16614&cat=376&page=3
It has 2 poles too, but it is not the same picture.
The BERU GZE 13 looks like this :
"GZE13" is engraved on one side.
I have one in my BN4 heater, and I have sold some of these with the pink insulator, others with the white insulator.
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: |
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dan macmillan wrote: |
crofty wrote: |
Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.
Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw? |
That plug is for the BA6 heater. The poles are:
lower one is a ground,
upper one is the power connection for the glow plug portion |
crofty wrote: |
The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. The one you show has a second that is a ground. |
_________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
HamburgerBrad wrote: |
I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Hello
I know a source for NEW plugs :
Identical to BERU GZE 16 (the genuine one, with one single pole).
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Pierre-J M. |
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!
Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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pjmacua wrote: |
I know a source for NEW plugs |
So Pierre, can you tell us what your source is, or are you just taunting us? |
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Cal Dez Rat Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 36 Location: Extreme So. Cal. Desert
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Are we keeping this a secret? I need one too! |
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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ztnoo Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 801 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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40.00 EUR = 53.8119 USD
http://www.xe.com/
Plus unknown shipping costs.
Better be checking out the domestic US/Canadian sources for this part.
Either way, it's a hard swallow............gulp.........svp..........
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- Bougie pour chauffage à essence Eberspächer BN4 2ème génération
Qualité d'origine.
Bougie double fonction (incandescence et étincelle) pour chauffage à essence BN4 de 2ème génération.
Correspond à la bougie BERU GZE 16 d'origine.
Prix: 40 euros pièce (dont 2 euros reversés pour le fonctionnement du site).
Frais de port en sus.
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pjmacua Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: |
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ztnoo wrote: |
40.00 EUR = 53.8119 USD
http://www.xe.com/
Plus unknown shipping costs.
Better be checking out the domestic US/Canadian sources for this part.
Either way, it's a hard swallow............gulp.........svp.......... |
I never said that they were cheap.
Shipping cost depends on the services (insurance, tracking number, express or priority,...) and it starts at 5 euros for other european countries and 6 euros for USA.
Ztnoo, check out your other sources for a NEW single pole BERU GZE 16 plug and let us know.
And if you find other hard to find parts at a cheap price (NOS dual air cleaner system, NOS 74 right mirror, NOS parts for the limited slip diffs,...), let us know too.
Regards
Pierre-J M. |
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