Big Blue's Back and slower than ever!! Called the Shop...

jre · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject:

Big Blue.....hate to hear that you are having problems with your rebuild. Hang in there and it will all come together for ya. BTW, I loved your video on your blog...big blue was purrin like a kitten and he will again.

BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject:

That's a good call. I'll check that tonight.

Thanks.
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BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject:

akscooter · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject:

If he put compression shims in, then seems to me that anytime you add to the cylinder it lowers the compression and throws of your fuel ratio. also causing less compression. thus less power.. I'm curious how far he shimmed it. also has it gone thru its break in period and has the rings set?
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Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50336

An 009 timed correctly shouldn't affect your full throttle power, only your part throttle power and the responsiveness. I would go for giving the shop a call and letting them figure out what happened. It is their job to do so. Very likely the throttle cable adjustment as someone already mentioned.

towd · Samba Member Joined: June 20, 2005 Posts: 2458

The work orde states replaced heads,, not P&C's or even rings.. but that they did reseal the cylinder to the case..

They put about 400 worth of parts at your cost ,, The rest is labor and they did a major screw up.. I would say they did not test drive the Bus..

AND there's this,, anytime you unhook fuel lines and reconect them,, there's a chance of dislodging crap,, and that plugging a carb..

bottom line 2200 bucks,, had you done your own work that would equal a new motor,, not a hi $$$ patch job. in fact 2200 bucks in a shop should have bought you a new motor ..

From the prices they charged you,, They must think there Damn good.

garykohl2 · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject:

First make sure you are getting full throttle when you press the pedal like the other guy said. I can't tell you how many times I have had people bring their car in because "it has no power" only to find out there was to much slack in the throttle cable.
Next find out why they put shims on your motor. If it didn't have them before then it probably doesn't need them. All those shims are doing is lowering your compression which takes away power.
Also, check your timing.
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[email protected] · Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject:

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BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:15 am Post subject:

Guys - thanks for all the suggestions. My wife banned me from the Samba last night as I had to pack for the holiday, so sorry I dropped off.

I'll do some testing on Sunday (if I get back in time) and talk to the shop on Monday.

I did test the throttle cable and it was set correctly.

The shims were 2mm shims and I see where that could take away from compression. I'll share what I find out when I test it.

Here's a little more info on the receipt I got from the place...

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Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50336

2mm would be .082", that is a lot of compression lost particularly if you have AMC heads with the raised sealing area. You usually want your piston to head clearance to be in the order of .040".

tnpanscraper · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:54 am Post subject:

Do you have an aftermarket oil filter kit? If not, you got ripped on the oil filter installation...
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BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:00 am Post subject:

tnpanscraper · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:04 am Post subject:

Cool man.... Does it smoke(burn oil) when you accelerate?
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BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:07 am Post subject:

Here are some pictures from when I stopped by and checked on the work:

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BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

tnpanscraper · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:09 am Post subject:

Nice heat exchangers... I could use some new ones also...
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tnpanscraper · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:10 am Post subject:

Sounds like it needs a valve adjustment and shim removal... Maybe reset the timing... Of course that's been said...
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BigBlueVW.blogspot.com · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:15 am Post subject:

It seems that a compression test will give me the insight I need, huh?
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tnpanscraper · Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:24 am Post subject:

Yes....Good Luck...
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