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tylergeddis Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2008 Posts: 348 Location: Whittier
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: Reproduction OT Pulley's |
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I have been looking around for one of those 4hole porsche pulleys. Not only are they rare but their might pricy! I was wondering if I could make reproductions. Could I make some from scratch on a lathe? What materials were they made of, and how did they produce them? Boyd Cottington, who passed away recently has one of those cool water jet machines that cut a brick of metal into a pice of art using water. If I could somehow find a way to use it I could produce a F@ck#ing sh# t load of them. |
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gimmesomeshelter Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: San Carlos, CA
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tylergeddis Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2008 Posts: 348 Location: Whittier
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Well at least it takes the rarity out of them. But come on $200. If I made repros I would sell them for half price! |
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overrestored Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2005 Posts: 726
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: Porsche Pulley |
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I am thinking Brad Ripley's (NLA) pulley is the smaller diameter pulley from a Porsche 356A and later engine... not the larger pre A size similar to VW.
This smaller pulley is similar in size to a vw "Power Pulley" and won't spin your fan at the same speed.
There have been other repros of the large diameter pulley... but they don't have the same look... and they are not any cheaper than an original.
Also... don't use VW pulley pullers with Porsche pulleys... you will break the edge |
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fanbelt Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Sanford Florida
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
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So whats the advantage of this pully over a stock vw pully? |
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:17 am Post subject: |
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fanbelt wrote: |
So whats the advantage of this pully over a stock vw pully? |
Spins the fan slower, less drag on the engine, less horsepower used.
--Dan |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76886 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Braukuche wrote: |
fanbelt wrote: |
So whats the advantage of this pully over a stock vw pully? |
Spins the fan slower, less drag on the engine, less horsepower used.
--Dan |
And less cooling. _________________ Glenn
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overrestored Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: advantage... |
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fanbelt wrote: |
So whats the advantage of this pully over a stock vw pully? |
"the false way of the OT pulley"
It is pretty.... in that way that only hard to find parts can be... and you want it because others have made it desirable.
But it is all a mirage... and actually once you get an OT pulley... you realize that it doesn't make your life better. The girls aren't fawning all over you like you thought they would. You aren't more handsome or rich... in fact you are poorer. Such is the way with vintage high performance...
But alas... it is simply something you cannot learn without the experience... so go find the mysterious and rare OT pulley... and place it upon the crankshaft of your beloved... as many have done before you... Then you can know the dark false power of it all... and you you will come to a secret knowledge.
It is all for naught. For only through the wise teachings of our late Zen master Gene Berg can you actually find happiness.
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tylergeddis Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2008 Posts: 348 Location: Whittier
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thats true. I will take your advise for it. So heres my thinking, I want the look of an old porsche pulley but the performance of a new performance one. So you buy one of these santana pulleys and paint it the color of the porsche pulley
Or buy of one of these solid pulleys grind the numbers/ paint off and drill the 4 holes like the porsche pulley then paint it.
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Braukuche wrote: |
fanbelt wrote: |
So whats the advantage of this pully over a stock vw pully? |
Spins the fan slower, less drag on the engine, less horsepower used.
--Dan |
And less cooling. |
I don't consider that an advantage, Glen
--Dan |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76886 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
Braukuche wrote: |
fanbelt wrote: |
So whats the advantage of this pully over a stock vw pully? |
Spins the fan slower, less drag on the engine, less horsepower used.
--Dan |
And less cooling. |
I don't consider that an advantage, Glen
--Dan |
Neither do I. _________________ Glenn
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tylergeddis Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2008 Posts: 348 Location: Whittier
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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What I meen is that I want the similar look of a porsche pulley but the performance of a stock size or larger pulley. What I was told was that the porsche pulleys arnt as great as you may think. They look great but they dont perform any better than the stock pulley. So my idea was to get the look of a porsche pulley but get the cooling of a stock size or larger pulley. Do you get what im trying to say? |
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Teeroy Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2003 Posts: 3685 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: Reproduction OT Pulley's |
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The early pullies were the same size or a bit larger than a VW pulley, had oil slinger grooves in them too. _________________ Pres. Rivercity VW Club www.rcvwclub.org
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OMT Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2004 Posts: 296
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: The Sacred "OT" Pulley |
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I thought some pictures would help......
KDF on left Porsche on right
Pre A Pulley on Kueble Wagon
Hope we are all on the same page.
Reproduced and copied in many forms, worshipped and hated in many circles; the only "Talisman" with more power is the "Elusive" Super Oel Breather Can.
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pbaptist Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2005 Posts: 1204 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Yes, Pictures helps a lot.
Now I understand want this topic is about.
I happened to have one of those fitted on my engine. I didn't know it was something special... I still have to learn a lot about vintage speed.
Patrick _________________ Dutch Karmann-Ghia and coachbuild lover.
1* Karmann Ghia Coupe (1966 Teak)
2* Karmann Ghia Convertible (1958, 1971)
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a-train Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2003 Posts: 702 Location: Issaquah via Parkland, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but will this repro pully hook right up to a 36 hp without fit issues?
Thanks. _________________ I like VWs |
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gimmesomeshelter Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: San Carlos, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hello-
You'll need to install a sand seal in your case.
Paull _________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have a vintage large OT pulley I want to use on my engine, but I noticed, or actually the machinist pointed out, that the threaded section on the OT is slightly longer than a stock VW pulley. Will that cause a problem, with say fan alignment, or does it need to be ground down?
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a-train Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Do these reproductions have an "OT" on the front?
Thanks,
A _________________ I like VWs |
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Sunroof53 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: The Sacred "OT" Pulley |
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OMT wrote: |
I thought some pictures would help......
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I have to say that those pulleys look rough to me.hardly something i would fit to a quality VW engine and definitley not worth $200.Looks like something from a old washing machine |
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