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vwadd1ct Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: Brake adjuster leaf spring |
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I am working on the brakes of my 57 bus and have found that I have a broken brake adjuster leaf spring on one of my front backing plates. I cant find any information on how to replace or even where to find one. My guess is that it was rivetted or spot welded on originally. Are replacements sold anywhere? |
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bill may Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Clara Samba Member
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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bill may wrote: |
i use pallet banding to make a new one. you can tack it on with a mig or drill and tap for a tiny screw like porsche. |
Thats a novel idea. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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ritchiet002 Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2003 Posts: 1676 Location: Kaneohe, HI
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Brake adjuster leaf spring |
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Anyone have new info on this? I have a broken one too. Clara's link is for a type I. I searched WW and found nothing for a bus _________________ Somewhere there is a jar with your name on it!
From now on, I'm gonna connect the dots my own way!______________________________________ |
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2Pack Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 806 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I made some once using a strip of sheet steel from the hardware store. I attached them using hollow aluminum rivets also from the hardware store. The rivets worked well, but didn't turn out real pretty. I was happy with the fix overall. This was for front brakes on a 64.
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ritchiet002 Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2003 Posts: 1676 Location: Kaneohe, HI
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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2Pack wrote: |
I made some once using a strip of sheet steel from the hardware store. I attached them using hollow aluminum rivets also from the hardware store. The rivets worked well, but didn't turn out real pretty. I was happy with the fix overall. This was for front brakes on a 64.
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Is the one on the left the original? Mine are a little different, but what you made should work. Nice fabricating!
_________________ Somewhere there is a jar with your name on it!
From now on, I'm gonna connect the dots my own way!______________________________________ |
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2Pack Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 806 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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ritchiet002 wrote: |
Is the one on the left the original? Mine are a little different, but what you made should work.
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Yes, the left one is one of the unbroken originals on my bus.
Thanks. It was the first part I ever fabricated. It wasn't hard. You could make one like the one you pictured just as easy.
One thing is that I heated the spring to red-hot and quenched it in water because I had heard that this would make it more springy. I could not tell if it actually worked. A NOS one would be better. These are the only ones I've ever seen for sale:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=559959 |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12383
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Brake adjuster leaf spring |
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ritchiet002 wrote: |
Anyone have new info on this? I have a broken one too. Clara's link is for a type I. I searched WW and found nothing for a bus |
Yes, Barndoors use the same piece as the beetles.
For post BD, there is the 3/4 ton kind and the 1 ton kind, which is why the pics of those springs aren't the same.... one reaches for the adjustment stars from the side, the other from head on. _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4561 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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While replacing a leaky rear wheel cylinder on my '67 Bus and freshening everything up in there, new cylinders and a set of shoes on both sides, I noticed that one half of the adjuster spring leaf broke off on both sides (one adjuster star being held in place and the other not).
Okay, other than spending a lot of time trying to make some up from scratch, or locating and buying new or used backing plates in good condition, does anyone know of a source, either NOS, used or repro, of a quality replacement brake adjuster leaf/tension spring "correct" for the rear brakes on a 1967 era Bus?
I hear/understand that you can't really successfully weld spring steel to the cast housing metal (incompatible), that one could try to un-swedge the casting to remove the old and install the new spring and re-swedge, or drill small holes and hollow-rivet the replacements in. I plan to do the latter if I can locate a suitable pair of replacement leaf springs.
Does anyone have any ideas or can you direct me to a suitable fix? Thanks for any assistance! Really!
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10192 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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BulliBill wrote: |
that one could try to un-swedge the casting to remove the old and install the new spring and re-swedge
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I've used a small chisel to push out what's left of the spring (push it to the left or right depending on which half of the spring is broken) and then I've used a chisel to open up the pean, clean it up with a file, and then have fabricated and installed new clips using the factory peans.
Sorry, I don't have a source for new springs, but they are easily fabricated. |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4561 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Greg,
I hadn't thought of "punching" the remainer out to the side and THEN cleaning it up! I'll try that once I can find a source for the one ton leaf springs (it's a '67 Bus). Man, you'd think with all the 3/4 and one tonners out there with this problem, that someong would have repro'ed those springs, especially someone like Wolfsburg West or Ronnie or the like. I know I'll stock up on several sets if/once they are repro'ed!
Thanks for the tip Greg! Now, anyone else have a source for the leaf springs?
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4561 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I put the rear drums back on and buttoned everything up. I'll keep looking for the leaf springs, or if someone is fabbing them (in my case for a '67) in quantity and selling 'em too, pass the info along please. I'll just have to keep an eye on the adjustment stars occassionally until I can fix these broken leaf springs more permanently. I'm not much of a fabricator (yet).
I should have everything on my to-do list done in time to take this '67 to the Mid-America Funfest next weekend (June 5-7th) barring any surprises... Hope to see a few of you there.
Bill Bowman _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14216 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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If the star is at all a normal fit it will back off quite quickly. You can bugger the threads of the thread part with a tiny chisel and it will thwart it from loosening then later get a good thread one when you finally get the cog spring. |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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BulliBill wrote: |
Well, I put the rear drums back on and buttoned everything up. I'll keep looking for the leaf springs, or if someone is fabbing them (in my case for a '67) in quantity and selling 'em too, pass the info along please. I'll just have to keep an eye on the adjustment stars occassionally until I can fix these broken leaf springs more permanently. |
Bump this up six years...any new news on repros for our buses, or is it something we still have to buy used or fab? _________________ Looking for a correct 1967 rear seat
Looking for '67 Engine / Block HO 183xxx - HO 194xxx |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4561 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it amazes me that WW or another vendor with tooling and experience hasn't knocked out new leaf springs of all types for the vintage market so far. I'd stock up on several types for all of my fleet...
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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Cptn. Calzone Samba Member
Joined: June 27, 2007 Posts: 1855 Location: S>E>Alabama
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:17 am Post subject: brake leaf springs |
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Wwest sells the springs for bus..I just bought a set for all four wheels.Now installing them is another issue _________________ 71 westfalia
67 912 Porsche Quintilla
67 Single Cab aka my work horse |
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kenshapiro2002 Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2013 Posts: 1826 Location: Bawlmer Hon
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmmm....talked to them a few hours ago and that wasn't the case. _________________ Looking for a correct 1967 rear seat
Looking for '67 Engine / Block HO 183xxx - HO 194xxx |
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Bruce Amacker Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2007 Posts: 1786 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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