im stuck, ( think problem solved )

jroymcd · Last edited by jroymcd on Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:17 pm; edited 2 times in total

lowered my 67 square about 3 up front. seems like I have no travel. My buddys 66 is at the same hieght and has 3 or 4 inches of travel.

my bump stop arms are cut off and I even pulled the shocks off to make sure they were not bottoming out.

To lower it we just took off the bolt on the oposite side we were lowering, pulled the arm off til it was just about level and put it back togeher. did not mess with the ball joint or upper arm.

what could have gone wrong?
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mufins13 · Samba Member Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: CT

top arm or bottom?

jroymcd · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject:

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject:

Did you remove the bump stops??
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mufins13 · Samba Member Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: CT

the top arm could be resting on the stop. theres ttwo one for the bottom and one for the top. post some pics im 3 down

jroymcd · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject:

jroymcd · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

my 67 is in the front, the 66 behind is about the same in front and still has travel.

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KTPhil · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject:

Maybe a ball joint is out of travel?

jroymcd · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject:

Adriel Rowley · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject:

Ever think why the factory set it to the ride height they did? Wink

Check the other Squareback, and see how it travels. Maybe it is inner rather than outer splines, or vise versa. Or, angle tie rod versus strait tie rod.
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jroymcd · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject:

so talked to a few people. from what I understand. because I did not loosen the ball joint like the one on the you tube video, or move the upper arm, the arms are binding. when the car is on the ground the top arm is not alowing the bottom arm from moving down when the suspension compreses.

anyone?
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gixxer 711 · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject:

the upper arm follows the lower arm
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jroymcd · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject:

gixxer 711 · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject:

thinking about it, probably a good chance. since the top arm is the sway bar, you were fighting it to twist the lower arm up. i would undo the bottom arm and the rebolt.
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jroymcd · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject:

I think I got it!

I loosened the all four ball joints. with them hand tight I put the car back on the ground. have plenty of travel.

Think i just needed to let the car re-index it self so the ball joints were at the correct range of motoin. when I go to tighten the ball joints back up I will do it with a jack under the spindle.
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KTPhil · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject:

Those ball joints are used to set camber, so they may bind after an alignment.

But then with it lowered that much, who cares about alignment, it'll handle like $hit anyway! Twisted Evil

jroymcd · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject:

KTPhil · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject:

Read up on the right initial position of the ball joints prior to alignment. Also see that only the lowers are to be used to align. This applies to stock height, but it might also apply to yours. I think Bentley covers it.

Also, see if the car pulls on the freeway, a sign of bad camber.

jroymcd · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject:


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