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tabell2001 Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2009 Posts: 2 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: a Road Racing Rail |
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Hey Guys,
I've looked and looked but can't seem to find where I initially saw this vehicle. i think it was a couple years ago that I saved these images to my computer. Does anyone know what it is, or anything about it... or heck, anything that looks similar. From reading about the off road rails, it seems like handling (turning specifically) isn't one of their strong points.
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57streetrodbuggy Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2008 Posts: 900 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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the frame design is pretty close to an arial atom (google it) but regardless i would love to have it pretty trick. _________________ Bermoco buggy on 57 pan - under construction
There's no such thing as too much horsepower, there is only a point where the car breaks in two |
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vpogv Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2008 Posts: 230
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Same basic design as the atom but using VW suspension design. I toyed around with the idea in photoshop a few months ago after seeing the chop top rail frame. My opinion street rails don't look too bad and would be a blast if the front end would stay down:
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NatedoggAZ Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2008 Posts: 145 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Wow - I remember those license plates...!!
Michigan - from 1976 if I'm not mistaken.... _________________ **Save our Mother Earth!
**Dispose of used motor oil properly!
++ One gallon of used motor oil can contaminate up to 1 MILLION gallons of fresh clean drinking water !! ++ |
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mwcopi Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2008 Posts: 247 Location: fairmount in
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I seen it in a issue (car show pic) in hot vw"s or vw trends. Its been a while. |
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burn-z Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2006 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:04 am Post subject: |
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This is actually the mid-engine chassis from www.sterlingsportscars.com
They cost about $11K. |
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vpogv Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2008 Posts: 230
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Nope, different chassis setups between the two. SSC's chassis is not all tubular like this one amongst other things. |
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4927 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Saw this buggy at Greensboro NC SEVWA indoor show a couple years ago - didn't catch name of owner...
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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tabell2001 Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2009 Posts: 2 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: thanks |
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Thanks for all the responses.
57streetrodbuggy - I'm all too familiar with the atom--it's what prompted me to look for a vw version (which should be a little {LOT} cheaper)
vpogv - I did a little searching on the forum for that chop top rail but I can't seem to find anything. It looks pretty awesome from your pics. Was that chop top frame something you saw on this forum? Going the Mid Engine route would help keep the nose down a little right? How many of you guys have or have driven the mid engine rails? I guess I could always add some sort of wing up front to give some downforce while at speed.
burn-z - Those sterlings are pretty nice--If I can't find something else then maybe I'll go that route.
If anyone has pictures, or thoughts on how to increase the handling for the road then I'd greatly appreciate the info. |
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Glasser Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2007 Posts: 1640 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
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vpogv Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2008 Posts: 230
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: Re: thanks |
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tabell2001 wrote: |
vpogv - I did a little searching on the forum for that chop top rail but I can't seem to find anything. It looks pretty awesome from your pics. Was that chop top frame something you saw on this forum? Going the Mid Engine route would help keep the nose down a little right? |
Digging around one day found the chop top frame here. Took it then shortened and dropped it to see how it'd look. There are the originals from thebuggyshop.50megs.com.
Mid Engine would help but as Glasser suggested throwing a bit of weight up front would take care of things easily. |
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southeastvw Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2002 Posts: 3100 Location: Hahira, GA
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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That is Mr. John Zwack's teal rail
He was at the last Greensboro Indoor show, but I do know it was for sale. I recall someone calling me about it not to long after that. _________________ Kathy Jacobs
www.SEVWA.com
www.southeasteuromotorsports.com |
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Butanehot Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2020 Posts: 1 Location: Delton, Michigan 49046
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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Hi, to all who have viewed this rail and to all that do, it belonged to and was built by my uncle Johnny(John Zwack Conway, South Carolina) he spent many hours custom bending the upper bars to which have many bends in them with different radius's in which they match each other, FAST oh yeah the 4 speed would really reach out and touch "YA" !!!! To all concerned he has passed a few years back in which I miss him dearly, he was one of my mentors as I was his biggest fan, so for any with questions contact me and we can go from there. Thank you all for looking and admiring his work and perception of something extraordinary, Rick(nephew)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Baka88 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2020 Posts: 4 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:52 am Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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Butanehot wrote: |
Hi, to all who have viewed this rail and to all that do, it belonged to and was built by my uncle Johnny(John Zwack Conway, South Carolina) he spent many hours custom bending the upper bars to which have many bends in them with different radius's in which they match each other, FAST oh yeah the 4 speed would really reach out and touch "YA" !!!! To all concerned he has passed a few years back in which I miss him dearly, he was one of my mentors as I was his biggest fan, so for any with questions contact me and we can go from there. Thank you all for looking and admiring his work and perception of something extraordinary, Rick(nephew)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Rick, what a neat piece of kit!
Did you take ownership of the car after your Uncle’s passing? |
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gbaker Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2006 Posts: 88
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 5:57 am Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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Those pics were taken at Farmington Dragway. Message Kathy Jacobs from SEVWA, Im sure she can get you in contact with the owner. She keeps all info on car show and racer participants.
Ive seen that thing before, it was clean. |
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Baka88 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2020 Posts: 4 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 7:17 am Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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gbaker wrote: |
Those pics were taken at Farmington Dragway. Message Kathy Jacobs from SEVWA, Im sure she can get you in contact with the owner. She keeps all info on car show and racer participants.
Ive seen that thing before, it was clean. |
Butanehot (Rick) has already managed to establish who the owner was as per above. |
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Baka88 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2020 Posts: 4 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:00 am Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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Tried PM-ing Rick, but no reply.
Anyone know where the car could be?
Keen to get some more photos of it. |
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Dan the workingstiff Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2006 Posts: 824 Location: Downriver, MI
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:14 am Post subject: |
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NatedoggAZ wrote: |
Wow - I remember those license plates...!!
Michigan - from 1976 if I'm not mistaken.... |
Yep, Michigan '76 plate. Have a few tucked away. Why? Lol _________________ '69 Beetle
'66 FG buggy
My other air-cooled's
'76 IH 1200
'75 IH 1200 |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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it seems everybody remembers that car... |
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Baka88 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2020 Posts: 4 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: a Road Racing Rail |
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mark tucker wrote: |
it seems everybody remembers that car... |
Everyone remembers, but then it simply disappears. 😭 |
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