think those fuel lines look okay?

[240Gordy]

think again.

did some more work on mine today, the three that run from the firewall fitting to the fuel rails.
I already did the injector stub hoses.

Inside the sheathing was all wet on a couple of the lines. Scary.
Glad I got it done. But I am wiped out from leaning over the engine and messing with that stuff.

what you can't see under the protective sheathing,

the area around the bleeder screw, all wet with fuel . . .

this is the hose that runs from the firewall fitting under the intake plenum to the bleeder screw junction fitting. It gets pretty ugly under there. I ran the new hose over the top, $0.10 style.

after,

note the line runs on top of the plenum, where you can see it.
Also not the missing bolts on the crankcase breather. Somebody gave up trying to replace them with the fuel lines in the previous location.
that's the next project.
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1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
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[BigNick0]

Thanks for the post. Very timely. My new fuel lines just arrived yesterday afternoon. My existing ones LOOK FINE! So I'm pretty sure I need to replace them.

My new upper ball joints also arrived, and yesterday I sourced the bits and pieces to relocate my OP sender into the engine compartment. My remote oil cooler setup eliminated the engine tin that the sender used to mount to. The zip-tie'ed sender to the oil lines is making me nervous.

Should be a fun weekend.

[woggs1]

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[Mr. Electric Wizard]

That's how mine looked (in your before pictures).
It was definitely time.
Felt good doing this work.
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[MootPoint]

This is probably a good time to ask a question that has always (well...since I bought a V'gon) plagued me:

Like changing the oil or packing the CV joints, is there a "recommended" replacement date/mileage for the fuel lines, i.e. "they look fine but it's time to change 'em anyway"?

I did mine about a year ago so I'm OK for "a while" but when is that "a while" over?
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[wbx]

[tclark]

[randywebb]

where does this start? do you replace the lines behind the firewall (i.e. just in the engine compartment)?

or do you need to crawl underneath and replace lines from the fuel tank to the firewall?

I'm not clear on what is rubber & what is metal on the fuel lines...

[iceracer]

Replace all fuel hoses(rubber) from tanks to motor back to tank, period. Then you are done and can relax.
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[zen beatnik]

When I recently replaced my lines, I was initially confused by the plastic lines that run the majority of the motor to tank distance. The rubber lines tie into these. Do the plastic lines ever need replacing as a matter of regular maintenance?

[Wildthings]

[240Gordy]

it is all rubber from the pump back as far as I know. I did crawl under and have a look at the area around the filter and pump and it looks good. It is not so much an harsh environment there. I will do this area soon, I have to pace myself . . .

The fitting on the firewall is plastic and gets brittle with age. If you are not ready to replace it be very careful getting the old line off.

If you look at the photo You will see I have not done the return side yet. Plan to do that soon as well.

Ben has an excellent write-up and photos on his site. Also have a look at Tencentlife's beter wasserboxer ad for ideas on routing your new lines.


And yup, the plastic junction for the coolant hoses is holding up okay, It just kind of hangs there. The hoses hold it in a sort of equilibrium.

Then there is all those messy wires too clean up, and the oil pressure problem . . .
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Tencentlife said,
"So, now that you know what you're doing, go to town."
2010 GOLF TRENDLINE 2.5
1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
H&R SPORT(RED) Springs FRONT , SLAM SPECIALTIES RE6 AIRBAGS REAR

[240Gordy]

[quote="Wildthings"]

[RCB]

[240Gordy]

I have seen a fire in a conventional car. It started in the engine compartment, it was just smoke when we first saw it (on the highway beside Loch Lamond in Scotland, just a spring day onlevel smooth road, who knows eh?)

Unless the fire department was there with mega-foam or whatever that car was a goner either way. there is so much flammable stuff in a car, if you can't get a fire extingusher on it right away get the heck away.

Some people didn't want to wait for the fire to burn down or the fire department to arrive, they drove by the burning car within feet of the flames.
Crazy.
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1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
H&R SPORT(RED) Springs FRONT , SLAM SPECIALTIES RE6 AIRBAGS REAR

[buildyourown]

I just went and did a visual inspection of mine. They look good and clean and pliable. Some are original and some have just been replaced. (Van is a '91)
It was just gone through by a very reputable vanagon mech and he replaced lots of stuff. I was mainly looking for mechanics tracks in the engine compartment to see what was actually replaced.

Anyways, I couldn't find the "firewall fitting" that I've seen pics of and are prone to failure. I'm thinking mine may have been replaced. The fuel line goes through a rubber grommet in the sheet metal. Am I missing something?

Edit: Nevermind, found it under there.

[a914622]

Not to hijack your thread but back when i sold machine tools there was a fire system we put on any machine that was using oil as a coolant.
The system was a fire bottle with a valve that had a plastic tube you put were you thought the fire may start. When the fire hit the tube it broke and released the fire bottle, putting out the fire. It was a Halon system so there was no crud in the machines.

Any one using or has seen a similar system?? Its been years since iv delt with one.


In doing my suby conversion I looked at a lot of older Subaru's and didnt see any problem with there fuel lines. Is there a better fuel line that can be used on the vanagons???

jcl
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[MootPoint]

[buildyourown]

[RCB]

Exactly what MootPoint said!!!!!!!