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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6247 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: Help Needed....Radius Arm Bushing Sleeve Replacement? |
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This part is NLA from vendors and VW. Mine are almost dust and I'm going to rebuild my front end. Has anyone had to replace this? What did you use? I think a piece of pipe the right size would work but I wondered if anyone else has come up with something the correct size.
Van Cafe said they are searching for a replacement but haven't come up with anything.
Thanks!
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van_1244479401810/page_309_1003/radius_arm_bushing_sleeve.html
_________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto
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syncrosimon Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2008 Posts: 257 Location: Devon, England
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Got mine from Brickwerks in the UK.
The dimensions of the piece were discussed on club 80-90. Cant find them though but will keep looking. Easy for a machine shop to make.
http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.pr...p;Itemid=6 _________________ 1991 16" 2.1 DJ Syncro factory hightop ex Finnish Army Ambulance, now sold.
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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I am currently working on having these and other sleeves in the Vanagon suspension produced in stainless steel.
My partner needs the exact specs of a new sleeve and he will make them.
We are waiting on new sleeves from another source to reproduce.
Our target price will be $15-$20 a sleeve at the moment.
I will keep this thread informed as too how we are making out.
If anyone has this sleeve brand new and is willing to measure it and or will ship it to me so I can measure it, I will pay shipping and give them a set of stainless sleeves once produced.
dylan |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9939 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure I have a set or 2 of new ones on hand. Do you still need measurements?
Mark
insyncro wrote: |
I am currently working on having these and other sleeves in the Vanagon suspension produced in stainless steel.
My partner needs the exact specs of a new sleeve and he will make them.
We are waiting on new sleeves from another source to reproduce.
Our target price will be $15-$20 a sleeve at the moment.
I will keep this thread informed as too how we are making out.
If anyone has this sleeve brand new and is willing to measure it and or will ship it to me so I can measure it, I will pay shipping and give them a set of stainless sleeves once produced.
dylan |
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kobylan Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Richmond B.C.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I just bought a complete set a couple of months ago. No problem getting them from VW. Have you tried www.1stvwparts.com ? _________________ 86 Westy |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I got lucky when doing radius arm work on my '81. Got two of the last few, if not the last 2, that were available to my parts guy.
FWIW, I too thought one could use pipe. I forgot to measure my new ones while still in hand. Meant to do that.
Again FWIW, the metal they're made of is *likely* harder than mild steel. On my '81, the rubber bushings were so worn.... "how worn were they?" .... they ovaled the hole in the subframe. Point is, ovaled hole seemed to take more of a beating that the sleeve and arm.
http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/radiusarm
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6247 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I called VW. They are NLA. Anyone have a set they want to sell? Please post the dimensions if you have them. Thanks! _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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squeegee_boy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 762 Location: Langley, BC, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I bought some from GoWesty last month. I had to call, though, because they weren't listed on the site.
Robyn _________________ 1984 FrankenSyncro Westy. EJ25 RMW kit
1971 Super Beetle with an EJ22. Oh yes. Daily driver |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6247 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to Mark who sent me the measurements:
56 mm long - 2 3/16”
25 mm outside diameter - 1”
19 mm inside diameter –3/4”
So I'll post the info if I can find a standard pipe or fitting that works. It's almost the size of a 3/4" Sch 80 pipe. OD=1.05" ID=0.742"
It doesn't look like the price for stainless pipe is that bad.
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=960&a...;top_cat=0
Thanks! -Rick _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9939 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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I too noticed how close it was the Schedule 80 steel pipe. I found a place online that sells stainless pipe cut to length and was thinking about ordering some already cut to size. The cost is a bit high for a speculative effort so if someone has a scrap of Sch 80 steel pipe we can test fit that would be great.
edit: I ordered 4 pieces cut to 2.20", if/when it comes I will try the fit. The cutting they offer is not precise, only as a minimum length with it allowed to be 1/8" over that. I anticipate having to use the bench grinder to finish it off.
Mark
PDXWesty wrote: |
Thanks to Mark who sent me the measurements:
56 mm long - 2 3/16”
25 mm outside diameter - 1”
19 mm inside diameter –3/4”
So I'll post the info if I can find a standard pipe or fitting that works. It's almost the size of a 3/4" Sch 80 pipe. OD=1.05" ID=0.742"
Thanks! -Rick |
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: |
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FWIW, some more information on sourcing these: I just received a set from gw.
Disappointed in quality, they are pretty sloppy pieces of work. Nice beefy stainless but they also were cut imprecisely, unquare ends all 4 ends, slightly different lengths. Mulling my options: reuse old, return these, or dress the ends and use these anyway.
Have others who have purchased these from said vendor been satisfied? _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:25 am Post subject: |
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teej wrote: |
FWIW, some more information on sourcing these: I just received a set from gw.
Disappointed in quality, they are pretty sloppy pieces of work. Nice beefy stainless but they also were cut imprecisely, unquare ends all 4 ends, slightly different lengths. Mulling my options: reuse old, return these, or dress the ends and use these anyway.
Have others who have purchased these from said vendor been satisfied? |
I have purchased all available over the years.
I have VW units that are cut and beveled on each end.
I still am in the process of having these sleeves and other suspension parts reproduced from the original VW parts.
It is a slow process.
I will inform the lists and forums when they are ready for sale.
dylan |
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: |
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teej wrote: |
FWIW, some more information on sourcing these: I just received a set from gw.
Disappointed in quality, they are pretty sloppy pieces of work. Nice beefy stainless but they also were cut imprecisely, unquare ends all 4 ends, slightly different lengths. Mulling my options: reuse old, return these, or dress the ends and use these anyway.
Have others who have purchased these from said vendor been satisfied? |
I bought some of these several months ago from GW with the intention of doing some front end work. I never did. I just went out to the garage to inspect them, and sure enough, they definitely are NOT square on the ends, and they are different lengths by almost 2mm per my calipers. I'm not sure if it matters or not, but yes, they don't look to be precision craftsmanship. Should I send mine back as well or does precision even matter in this particular part? _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
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insyncro Banned
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:15 am Post subject: |
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The replacement parts need to be the same size and finish...IMHO. |
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a914622 Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2004 Posts: 840 Location: Westend of HWY2 , Wash
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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PDX
Run out to your local trade collage and give them a quick drawing with dim. and an idea of the material.
That part would take less than ten munites to make on a manual lathe. That is the perfect project for the students.
With a cnc it should be less than 2 min to make. If you get up by Leapold/Stevens there is a costco west of there. across the parking lot there is a shop that should be able to help you out.
jcl _________________ 87 gl powerd buy 2.5subaru
75 914 getting 2.2t subaru scratch that SVX subaru |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Bought mine from the Samba classifieds.
Have not installed them yet, but they are nice quality and made from heavy stainless tubing. Great seller and price.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1106616 _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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insyncro Banned
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Judging by the picture, these were cut with a hacksaw and not beveled either.
Par for the course. |
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insyncro Banned
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:32 am Post subject: |
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The edge bevel I am referring to is found on the Syncro 16 sleeves I own.
I am having all replacements beveled. |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:37 am Post subject: |
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PDXWesty wrote: |
Thanks to Mark who sent me the measurements:
56 mm long - 2 3/16”
25 mm outside diameter - 1”
19 mm inside diameter –3/4”
So I'll post the info if I can find a standard pipe or fitting that works. It's almost the size of a 3/4" Sch 80 pipe. OD=1.05" ID=0.742"
It doesn't look like the price for stainless pipe is that bad.
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=960&a...;top_cat=0
Thanks! -Rick |
The ones I bought from here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1106616
Using my Mitutoyo calipers they measure.
Length = 56.12mm
OD = 25.35mm
ID = 19.7mm _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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insyncro wrote: |
The edge bevel I am referring to is found on the Syncro 16 sleeves I own.
I am having all replacements beveled. |
There are saw marks. But they are square cuts.
Maybe he uses a band saw. _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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