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RIOMX Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: Best Price for an Engine Tin for a Bug Engine in a Type 2? |
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If you are running a beetle engine in your Type 2 (whether by your choice or that of a previous owner), can you recommend a place where I can get an engine tin for a good price?
The one that was installed in my bus is pretty shoddy and it might be a reason why I am getting exhaust in the cabin:
(Btw, I've cleaned the compartment a bit since the picture and added a new air filter with a breather hose attached to the oil filler next to the generator) |
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theizzardking Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 2097 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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not to be a jerk but the best price for tin is always going to be at a swap or someone getting rid of it on the CL, but beyond that i'd try german supply,
the shoddy tin could be crappy Chinese stuff and thats why it's not right. no such thing as good and cheap. either get the cheap stuff which you may already have or get the good german stuff. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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RIOMX Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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theizzardking wrote: |
not to be a jerk but the best price for tin is always going to be at a swap or someone getting rid of it on the CL, but beyond that i'd try german supply,
the shoddy tin could be crappy Chinese stuff and thats why it's not right. no such thing as good and cheap. either get the cheap stuff which you may already have or get the good german stuff. |
I'll be looking like a hawk at the next swap around here (i think in August), but if I can find something sooner, that'd be awesome.
It looks like the one in there now was cut from sheet metal and drilled with screws into the engine bay. |
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theizzardking Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 2097 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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ha just noticed yours is a '75 word on the street is you want the creative carcraft tin or something like that. as far as i know there is only one company that make the tin for your conversion and it's not very cheap but apparently it fits like a glove. i'll search and see if i can find the link. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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You need this: http://www.creativecarcraft.com/notforbug.htm And a real fan shroud instead of that phoney 36 hp one, look for a core engine locally if you can because if yours has that crappy shroud there's likely alot of other stuff missing or Chinese quality. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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theizzardking Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 2097 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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bastard! just as i found it! lol just kidding thanks for that! cheers! _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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RIOMX Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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And a fan shroud? Shit...more things to add to the list
Anyhow, between the link above and this I found:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=606071
Any difference in quality?
If not, then I'll just go for the cheaper "Not For Bugs" one |
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theizzardking Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 2097 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i'd stay well away from that guy read the feedback forum and he doesn't seem to have enough of a customer base for me to give him the benefit of the doubt, you can make uour own choice but at this point for me i would defiantly not use this guy.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=363452&highlight=gerrygorski+yahoo
which is the person who is selling the tin your looking at on the samba. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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theizzardking Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 2097 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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seriously from what i have heard<--repeat from what i have heard the creativecarcraft tin is perfect. no better fit. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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theizzardking Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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YOU WILL NOT FIND THIS AT A SWAP MEET. (very very unlikely) _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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theizzardking Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 2097 Location: seattle
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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RIOMX wrote: |
theizzardking wrote: |
not to be a jerk but the best price for tin is always going to be at a swap or someone getting rid of it on the CL, but beyond that i'd try german supply,
the shoddy tin could be crappy Chinese stuff and thats why it's not right. no such thing as good and cheap. either get the cheap stuff which you may already have or get the good german stuff. |
I'll be looking like a hawk at the next swap around here (i think in August), but if I can find something sooner, that'd be awesome.
It looks like the one in there now was cut from sheet metal and drilled with screws into the engine bay. |
oh that might even be worse...the red neck shade tree tin.....lol _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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RIOMX Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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theizzardking wrote: |
oh that might even be worse...the red neck shade tree tin.....lol |
Yeah dude, it's definitely not pretty. no attempt to seal gaps at all |
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Blaubus Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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RIOMX wrote: |
And a fan shroud? Shit...more things to add to the list
Anyhow, between the link above and this I found:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=606071
Any difference in quality?
If not, then I'll just go for the cheaper "Not For Bugs" one |
the Creative Car Craft "tin" is only 225. at 350, this advertiser might very well be reselling CCC "tin". and that's the best case scenario.
at worst, he is charging 350 for some poorly made crap fabricated in his garage. especially at that price with no picture of what he is selling- BEWARE |
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RIOMX Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: La Crosse, WI
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VWDruid Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2008 Posts: 1192 Location: Boca de Ratones FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:28 am Post subject: |
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um no you could get better used and cheaper.
do it once do it right get a 71 doghouse with flaps and thermo if you can.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ton=Search
but if you want some thing cool and new
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1523
but you still have to do some thing to fit it to a bus see that bottom front tin peace on the CB "puma" fan shroud that will not just hook up to a bus, bug ghia yes.
the 71 bus had the one yr only tin you may need or you may need to order some thing from E.U. or Aussieland where that still had type 1 engines after 71
71 only you cant find new
68 to 70
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_________________ 70 Westy, 2027cc "dual DRLA 40 m140 i55 wjdoc a165 p33 v30 "w100 straight cut 040 polished heads 1.25 rockers 1.5 A1sidewinder supertrapp muffler trans 091 coil SUM-850500 CDI universal svda Pertronix
http://www.storyofstuff.com/
It's not the straight cut gears It's the T.A.R.D.I.S. engine.
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VWDruid Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2008 Posts: 1192 Location: Boca de Ratones FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:44 am Post subject: |
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P.s. pic of your muffler set up? _________________ 70 Westy, 2027cc "dual DRLA 40 m140 i55 wjdoc a165 p33 v30 "w100 straight cut 040 polished heads 1.25 rockers 1.5 A1sidewinder supertrapp muffler trans 091 coil SUM-850500 CDI universal svda Pertronix
http://www.storyofstuff.com/
It's not the straight cut gears It's the T.A.R.D.I.S. engine.
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:58 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if the CCC fiberglass tin set has the hole for the doghouse vent already cut out but all the Euro 1600 busses were doghouse. Find a used shroud in the classifieds, far better quality and performance than anything made currently. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Blaubus Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
I'm not sure if the CCC fiberglass tin set has the hole for the doghouse vent already cut out but all the Euro 1600 busses were doghouse. Find a used shroud in the classifieds, far better quality and performance than anything made currently. |
yes it does. |
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RIOMX Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: La Crosse, WI
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Good call on the used shroud. If I'm lucky, it'd be great to score a 71 fan shroud.
Here are photos from this morning of the engine compartment, plus the motor:
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: |
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That's quite the sealing job, between the holes around the engine and the substandard shroud you had better do something fairly quick, that's a recipe for disaster.
No mustache bar either, interesting. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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