Type 3 in a Type 2

suebug · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: Type 3 in a Type 2

I posted this in the Split Bus Forum but only one answer so far so I thought I'd bring it to you Type 3s, figuring you had experience with all air-cooleds.

Can I use my type 3 block in a type 2?
I need to build a stock motor for my '66 Sundial (12volt). I have a single port type 3. It's already upright. What disadvantages do they have that I might find out too late that I don't know about now. Money is no object. (just kidding) Thanks for any help you can give me, Type 3 Forum.

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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:10 am Post subject:

The engine you are picturing is not a Type 3 engine. It is a 68-69 1500cc engine, by the engine number.
It does have and alternator generator stand on it, with an 009 distributor.
It should fit in your 66, if the flywheel is 6V 109 teeth. If you transmission is the larger bellhousing, you can use an automatic starter with it, since you are already 12V.
Be sure you replace any missing tin, and engine compartment seals, or you will have overheating problems.
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KTPhil · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:18 am Post subject:

suebug · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:23 am Post subject:

Thanks for your reply, Russ. A well-respected VW shop told me the H5 number configuration was a type 3. This will be easier than I thought now.
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notchboy · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:44 am Post subject:

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:49 am Post subject:

Actually, that engine comes up as being built about Sept, Oct. 1968 for a 1968 bug.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
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Air_Cooled_Nut · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:56 am Post subject:

Well, when it comes to the basic [engine] block, it doesn't really matter, correct? The only differences I can think of are:

TIII has no oil pressure port on left side of case
TIII has mounts for engine hanger around oil pump (IRS models)
TIII has dipstick tube mount at rear bottom right of sump

What are the other visual cues I'm missing?
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notchboy · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:43 am Post subject:

Russ Wolfe · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:46 am Post subject:

Someone actually makes an adapter T-1 dip stick that bolts on where the T-3 dipstick goes.
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suebug · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:56 am Post subject:

I looked up the numbers. Correct me if I read wrong.

It's beetle made between August and November 67
44 horse
M-code 157
Activated carbon exhaust control hence the hole in the manifold?
1500cc
USA/Canada markets

For beetle models 113 114 117 118 141 142 143 144 151 152
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Mike Fisher · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject:

I'm betting on Sue! Made in 67 for a 68.
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