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Snort
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 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: Need Help on Splitcase Nosecone and Hockey Stick ID |
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I'm trying to move from a full syncro back to a splitcase transmission in my 57 Bug. I think I have the correct nosecone, but the hockey stick I just got seems to not fit correctly. I don't have the full syncro out, so I can't tell if the nosecone is correct for sure, but it looks like I remember it to be and the number is 113 301 211.
The hockey stick fits the nosecone, but pushes it too far to the left when trying to assemble it (towards the right side of car), and the number on it is 111 307 541A. Also, the shape of the hockey stick seems wrong as it has a "S" bend in it and I don't remember the splitcase sticks to have that bend. I would greatly appreciate any information you guys might have on the correct combination. Thanks!
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Bruce
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure that hockey stick is correct for a 53-59 split case, crash first gearbox.
There's another hockey stick that places the tip in exactly the same spot, but without the S shape, it's straight. I've seen this one with 3 different part numbers:
111 307 541
113 307 541
A21.10.1
Finally, there's the 1960 only hockey stick. It's 111 307 541B
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btleboy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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What year is your trans based on the stamping number? Bruce is right on the 60 being a one year only. I ordered a new nose cone from WW and when I went to install it the hockey stick was in the wrong place. I finally looked up the numbers here and found out I had a 1960 split case in my 57. Tracked down a 1960 nosecone and it worked perfect. The nosecone looks like the 59 back one. Good luck.
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Snort
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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My hockey stick/nosecone combo was correct for the car but not for the transaxle. I had to change out the three selector shafts inside the case with earlier style ones to make it fit correctly.
btleboy is on the right track to check the transaxle numbers; I already knew it was a 1960 model, but I had thought the earlier nosecone and hockey stick transplant would work.
Thanks for the help and clues on this one. Problem solved. |
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Bruce
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Are you saying the nose cone is the same for 1960 gearboxes and the 53-59s?
And that the difference is the hockey stick, plus the 3 shift rods?
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Snort
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Are you saying the nose cone is the same for 1960 gearboxes and the 53-59s?
And that the difference is the hockey stick, plus the 3 shift rods? |
No.
The 1960 nosecone, hockey stick and selector shafts all are different, or another way of saying it is that they must all be together to fit and work together.
So, while I have a 1960 gearbox, it now has earlier than 1960 nosecone, hockey stick and selector shafts which all work correctly together.
As the 1960 nosecone has a higher hockey stick location, the angle of how it fits with the selector shafts is different; hence the 1960 selector shafts have different ends on them in align with the hockey stick. |
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