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greenbus pilot Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2008 Posts: 1285 Location: Wisconsin: Rustbelt, USA baby!!
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I vote for more grease. Use a needle adapter and slip it under the boot. Try to get it to the actual balls and not just under the boot.
FWIW- I have cleaned mine a few times and observed some pretty heavy pitting, but they keep on rollin. If they get noisy, i will replace them. _________________ Sent from a white van down the street. |
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73kombi Banned
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 1215 Location: ~The London Bridge, AZ~
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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greenbus pilot wrote: |
I vote for more grease. Try to get it to the actual balls |
I've heard that somewhere before......I'd post a pic, but I promised not to. |
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stupidsongs2 Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2006 Posts: 550
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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How much grease did you add? When I rebuilt mine, you had to add an entire 4oz package of grease to each joint.
Source: http://volksweb.relitech.com/cvjoints.htm |
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: |
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One or more of your cv joints are toast.Buy GKN german cv's have someone who knows what they are doing build your axles.These joints are not cheap.Build them once.Or can surf and end up buying chinese garbage thrice. |
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:45 am Post subject: |
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73kombi wrote: |
But did they all go back on in the exact same location?
Did you find a kid to strap under the bus to identify exactly where the "click" is coming from? |
There has been a lot of prior Samba discussion about putting them on reversed of how they came off. Starting a new wear pattern and getting longer life out of them.
Can we borrow one of your kids to help us trouble shoot problems?
OP- Since you would have been following your manual you would have put in the right amount of the right kind of grease. So your click is a bad joint. You can find out which one by jacking the back up and running it in gear. No need to freak out. It can be done safely. I've written how a couple times. Samba searching could find it. It is a wonderful way to check out all kinds of important things with your rear drive train. _________________ 71 Superbug
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73kombi Banned
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 1215 Location: ~The London Bridge, AZ~
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Desertbusman wrote: |
Can we borrow one of your kids to help us trouble shoot problems? |
One of my grandsons would probably volunteer...
Desertbusman wrote: |
So your click is a bad joint. |
Could be a bad joint, could be a number of things...but since you are so good at remote viewing/diagnosing, can you come read my thread and tell me exactly where my oil leak is before I start pulling the fan this morning?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=374696
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You can find out which one by jacking the back up and running it in gear. No need to freak out. It can be done safely. I've written how a couple times. Samba searching could find it. |
I usually just jack it up and set in on 2 >12" diameter firewood logs...is your searchable way better? |
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Wild Bill Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2006 Posts: 1013 Location: Pepsi-Cola, Fl
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Jay. I have got to go to Don's this afternoon and push a couple of buses around his yard. When I get finished I'll call ya and come over to do some CV joint trouble shooting. My phone was off yesterday while I was teaching
a CPR class. _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life in the Fast Lane ?....What the Hell does that feel Like?"
"Wild" Bill Tucker
Pensacola, Fl
1978 Champagne Edition (High Top Camper Converstion.) 2.0L FI
1969 Squareback 2.0L
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timo78 Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2009 Posts: 931 Location: Overcast and Loving it
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Agree w/ not enough grease: I have always packed mine full on every vehicle I've ever done.
Jack it up and get a buddy to hand spin each wheel real quick while using a hose length as a stethoscope. Listen to each joint to identify where sound comes from. |
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kerian159 Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2008 Posts: 344 Location: Pensacola, FL
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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when I rotate the tire on the driver's side it doesn't make any noise really until I change the direction of rotation then it makes a clunk noise. I also checked the torque all but 3 where tight the 3 that were not had been stripped out so i'm going to be getting new bolts and then torque them down. Hopefully doing that will correct that problem. However after doing this work I went to drive it around the block to test and when I put it in reverse the brakes went clunk (I felt it in the pedal) so I pulled the wheel off of the drivers side to inspect the brakes and they are all still intact anybody got an idea about that? It only does this in reverse (automatic).
Thanks
Jay _________________ 1976 Type II Westy P22
"Growing older, but not up!" |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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When was the last time you adjusted the brakes? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
Слава Україні! |
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kerian159 Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2008 Posts: 344 Location: Pensacola, FL
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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it has been awhile since I have done anything with the back brakes but they do work (sorta) but why would it only do the noise in reverse? oh also when it makes the clunk the brake pedal looses pressure. strange...
thanks,
Jay _________________ 1976 Type II Westy P22
"Growing older, but not up!" |
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Not strange at all. You say they sorta work. So they sorta have problems also. Whenever the shoes try to grab the drum, the drum tries to move the shoes in the direction of rotation. The shoes are held in position by the wheel cylinder at one end and the adjuster at the other end. It's not totally solid as if the shoes were solidly bolted in place. And without good adjustment there is even more slop available for the shoes to move around. So you could expect clunks or whatever. And since the shoe and wheel cylinder are pushing against each other any movement or forces transmit into the hydraulics.
So you've found out that your brakes have issues. Time to redo them. _________________ 71 Superbug
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Suggestion:
When you pull apart those rear brakes, spend some quality time with the wire brush portion of your bench grinder to remove the rust and crud that are making the "star wheels" difficult to adjust those rear brakes. I like to lube mine with a 50/50 mix of wheel bearing grease and anti-sieze to prevent them from rusting all up.
Put a little anti-sieze on the brake drum where it fits on the axle to keep it from rusting on there also. I also pain the outside of the brake drum after steel brushing it down to real metal.
I also used my wire brush die grinder to clean up the rear backing plates at the same time and painted mine "bitchin black" to keep the rust at bay.
I will bet that noise goes away with properly adjusted rear brakes and a properly adjusted e-brake. |
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Yes, what Randy says. Also pay attention to where the shoes ride on the backing plate. If there are ridges or scoring smoothe those areas down. If shoes hang up there they won't work smoothly. Might even make wierd noises. I also put a real small light bit of lube on those bumps and also make sure the shoes are smoothe in that area. _________________ 71 Superbug
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