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camerahunter Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2009 Posts: 567 Location: Tacoma
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: 1985 Vanago and 1989 Golf 1.8 8V parts crossover list? |
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Hello All,
I am wondering if there is anyone with experience with both the Golf and the Vanagons. I have become a die hard VW fan and decided to get a little 89 4 door Golf with an 8V engine. So far I know they use the same oil filter.
I would guess there are other parts that are the same.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
David _________________ 1984 - Daily driver |
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perrib Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 3402 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Radiator cap. |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Ummm, there's no radiator cap... |
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perrib Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 3402 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Andrew A. Libby wrote: |
Ummm, there's no radiator cap... |
Besides the air cooled Vanagons, what keeps the pressure in the Golf and water cooled Vanagon cooling systems? Let me guees you want to be technical and call it an expansion tank cap. The same radiator cap used on a 75 Rabbit is used for the expansion tank cap on the 1989 Golf, VW part # 443 121 321. Just semantics Same part different name. Semantics?
You being worried about semantics made me see a worse error. I was was wrong about using the same part. The Vanogon has the same part cap but it is modified to recover vented coolant. Part # 025 121 321A. The Golf one would work on a Vanagon in a pinch but you lose the recovery function. The Vanagon cap would work fine on the Golf.
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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You think accurate parts names aren't important? That's pretty funny.
I actually thought your initial post was a joke from the fact that neither the vanagon nor golf have radiator caps and the pressure caps aren't even interchangeable. The fact that you were trying to be serious and then you were critical of my response is even funnier.
You are a very funny guy. I'd love to watch you at the parts counter when the guy hands you a brake drum when you wanted a rotor or or a ball joint when you wanted a tie rod end, etc... |
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HeftySmurf Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 879 Location: Washington, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Bawahahahaha _________________ -Lorenzo
90 GL w/ Bostig
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perrib Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 3402 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew
You might be upset, I'm just grateful for your post. I thank you for waking me from my morning fog. Your comment made me realize my interchangeability statement error, something you did not initially write in your first post.
The "joke albeit" a sad one, may be your inflexibility to allow other descriptions of a part when you feel there must only be one description of said part.
VW did use it as a radiator cap for a 1975 VW Rabbit and later used that same radiator cap for a 1989 Golf. Go into the VW parts department and request a radiator cap for an 1989 Golf chances are you would get the correct part. Even aftermarket catalogs list them differently.
From Autohausaz.com
443121321
Meistersatz/CRP-Contitech
Radiator Cap/Expansion Tank Cap; Female Thread; Round
Please verify thread inside cap for externally threaded expansion tank port prior to ordering. 1 per car. $27.78 $2.12
From Autozone.com
CST / Coolant Recovery Tank Cap Part Number:
7025
I have also heard it called: surge tank cap, coolant reservoir cap.
As not to upset you, what would you like me to call it?
HeftySmurf
Thanks for the Spell Check. Please check this post. I see by your most eloquent post incorrect spelling upsets you more than not a calling a part by what Andrew wants more than it upsets him. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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A radiator cap goes on the radiator- hence the name... |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'm entirely unhurt and not at all upset. I honestly could not care less what you call things and haven't felt anything other than humorous amusement at the whole interchange including your displacement issues. |
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perrib Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 3402 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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It was quite amusing. |
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HeftySmurf Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Its ok I 4give U... Umust not own one _________________ -Lorenzo
90 GL w/ Bostig |
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perrib Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have owned several Vanagons. |
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Syncroincity Samba Member
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JunkYarDog Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:28 am Post subject: |
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So, is there anything interchangeable or not? I'd be curious if starters were, I know the Bosch unit for the Vanagon is $400 new... |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I think the turn signal switches, blower motor, ignition switch, many of the relays and the lock cylinders will swap over, but please double-check on any of that. I don't think the starters are interchangeable. Not a whole lot swaps back and forth that I can think of. |
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erdonline Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2004 Posts: 943 Location: CT
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: parts interchangeability |
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The lock cylinders use different key blanks. I don't know if the cylinders can be swapped or not, but I do know that the cylinders use different keyway profiles.
The oil filters are different, also. Most current parts catalogs show that they use the same, but this seems to be incorrect. VW sells two different ones, and Mann, Mahle, Knect, and some others sell two different ones. They have two differnent bypass pressure relief pressures.
Ed in CT _________________ '85 Vanagon Westfalia
'84 Vanagon 7-passenger
'98 Mexican air-cooled Beetle |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Good point on the keyblank profiles. |
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wasserbox Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2008 Posts: 533 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: Re: 1985 Vanago and 1989 Golf 1.8 8V parts crossover list? |
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camerahunter wrote: |
Hello All,
I am wondering if there is anyone with experience with both the Golf and the Vanagons. I have become a die hard VW fan and decided to get a little 89 4 door Golf with an 8V engine. So far I know they use the same oil filter.
I would guess there are other parts that are the same.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
David |
Some of the relays are the same...
You'd have better luck with a MK1 <= 84 GTI or Rabbit. The 1.9L vanagons had more in common with MK1 watercooled. The 1986 & up vanagons had more in common with MKII watercooled.
But it's still pretty much limited to filters and relays. |
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