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Stanagon Samba Member
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6Kabrio7 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nice looking vert..How much rust does it have underneath? _________________ 67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
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EMPIImp69 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Stan, I've seen you at Atco and Flanders..that vert is cool, it looks like Java Green started in '64 according to the archives. My '67 Vert was originally Java Green. You got any pics of the interior?
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Agave58 Samba Member
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Java green was only available from 64 to 67. Turquoise L380, and Beryl green L478 were offered in 62, but yet that looks Java green to me too? _________________ 1958 Agave Beetle (0\_!_/0)
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Time to crack open the books. That body sure appears later to me. There are '64 and up clues all over- signals, license light (why is the brake res. there? I need photos inside to be sure. check other fittings like the rear view mirror, seats, etc. The dash says alot. I am not researching this much further- but didn't '65s have a flasher? All in all- the amount of Java alone departs it enough from my gulf blue '62 vert to call this a body swap. _________________
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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6Kabrio7 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 2387 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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i didn't notice the license light..it looks swapped and is a different shade of blue. you can see where the bigger one was mounted that was taken off. _________________ 67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
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Stanagon Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2003 Posts: 4186 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dash
Behind dash. Speedo might be stamped 2.64. I'll check tomorrow.
Rear seat has only upholstery that might be original.
Spare tire well with non-functional brake reservoir. Has been upgraded to dual circuit master with relocated dual circuit reservoir.
VIN# seemed to match title, but it's hard to read. Will need to look at it more carefully.
This convert has been modified and patched up in numerous places. But it's pretty solid and very driveable. Body swap is possible, perhaps also is an error in the year indicated on the title.
I have received a recent MA title from the previous owner who owned it since 2004. He installed a B-case motor from a '65 bus he had (not original to bus) that is still running good. Paint and modifications were done previous to his ownership. _________________ Stan's Classic Service, specializing in air-cooled VWs:
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My '61 Mango bus thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110367
My '64 vert thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=386344
My '71 squareback thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=637709 |
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Stanagon Samba Member
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MANNAXMAN Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2009 Posts: 485 Location: Cali
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Stanagon wrote: |
Spare tire well with non-functional brake reservoir. Has been upgraded to dual circuit master with relocated dual circuit reservoir.
VIN# seemed to match title, but it's hard to read. Will need to look at it more carefully.
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The straight edge of the steering box access hole is vertical and on the left. On a '62 it should be horizontal and on the bottom. I believe they changed the orientation in '64, which would explain the Java Green paint.
It looks like the first three digits of the VIN on the tunnel are 337, which would make it Sept. '60 chassis ('61 model year).
Sounds/looks like a body swap to me. |
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Michael Fischer Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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The back seat cover is 64 only. |
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Stanagon Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2003 Posts: 4186 Location: Boston, MA
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fluxcap Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2006 Posts: 1969 Location: Newnan GA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Stanagon wrote: |
The character to the left of the "33" in the tunnel VIN looks like it could be a VW symbol.
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Looks like it could be a 6 to me. Which would make the vin 633xxxx, which would be a May 1964 build date. _________________ Eric - 1966 camper bus
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DrDarby Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2004 Posts: 6534 Location: Northern Illinois
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I agree, Java Green with that upholstery, that is a 1964 convertible. _________________ Midwest Autosavers, Inc. Woodstock, IL |
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6Kabrio7 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like someone really messed with the VIN..I hope it's not stolen. Probably just because of the body swap. _________________ 67 Convertible July 67 Yukon Yellow
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Teeroy Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2003 Posts: 3685 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:04 am Post subject: '62 vert, Java Green? |
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What number is on the body VIN plate? _________________ Pres. Rivercity VW Club www.rcvwclub.org
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Michael Fischer wrote: |
The back seat cover is 64 only. |
Ding ding- we have a winner! Spotted that upholstery right away- other clue: steering wheel and horn bar. Good spot Mannaxman on the cover plates. _________________
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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1-4-3-2 Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 104 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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The rear seat material is specific to 64 beetles only and is not reproduced as of today. So java green, small windshield and that cloth should make it a 1964. My guess is that the year was typed wrong on the reg. at some point. I had a hell of a time earlier this year trying to explain to the RI DMV that my 68 beetle vin# was the engine #. A 40 year old DMV error. Good luck with it Stan. _________________ 1967 Sunroof Deluxe, L633 VW Blue
1979 'Vert, 97A Diamond Silver Metallic
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yachtybugger Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Also, the centre pressing on the decklid finishes early next to the light housing. That together with a t-handle indicates a 64 decklid as well. |
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Stanagon Samba Member
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Stanagon Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: '64 vert, Java Green |
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I replaced the old, stiff steering box in the '64 vert this week.
Here is the old steering box in place. It was hard to turn and forget about wheel return after turning.
I first removed the tie rods to confirm the problem was with the steering box, it was.
New TRW steering box.
These mount studs need to be transferred from the old box to the new one. Mine came out with no problems after some cleaning and lube.
My old steering box was from a '55-'61 bug, which has a larger output shaft and different pitman arm.
Bug City in Berlin, CT supplied me with the used '62-'65 pitman arm, shown installed on the new TRW steering box.
'55-'61 pitman arm in foreground wouldn't work with new steering box.
New steering box installed. Also replaced the right side tie rod ends and greased the left side ones.
Much nicer steering now. Next step is an alignment.
_________________ Stan's Classic Service, specializing in air-cooled VWs:
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My '61 Mango bus thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110367
My '64 vert thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=386344
My '71 squareback thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=637709 |
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