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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I've just come across an ample quantity of 2" steel tubing and a nice deer guard appears to be in the works.

I really appreciate the ingenuity and aesthetics of itzdshtz's and tclark's bumpers and was wondering if anyone had any dimensions on the bumper mounts.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is a van that Rocky Mountain Westy is putting together. I like how the rear nerf bar flows into the rear bumper. They had to modify the slider door linkage to clear the other side. The way they did it was pretty slick.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love what Rocky Mountain Westy is producing, but I can't help thinking it looks like an NFL facemask. Definitely burly in appearance, and would probably fair well in a frontal collision.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="1621"]and would probably fair well in a frontal collision.

I know I could have used it the other day when I hit a deer with my van. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and would probably fair well in a frontal collision.

I know I could have used it the other day when I hit a deer with my van. Evil or Very Mad


OUCH! I hope you and any passengers were alright, and the deer suffered a lesser fate! Twisted Evil

I'd forgotten what it's like living in deer country. Every summer I head to MT I'm reminded about the deer because EVERY truck, semi, and passenger vehicle has some sort of extra front end protection like this - The Moose Bar. This must be where Alaric drew his inspiration! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is a van that Rocky Mountain Westy is putting together. I like how the rear nerf bar flows into the rear bumper. They had to modify the slider door linkage to clear the other side. The way they did it was pretty slick.
I like it but I think on tight trails it would make tight turns a little harder it looks like it makes the van longer but the side bars are great. I am glad there is a brush guard around thats weirder than mine.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncro-Bernds TV project syncro had a real nice look to it, until they painted the details orange. But this cage is soo cool.

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All the build pics here

Seems like every T3 in Finland has a bullbar, even the 2wd ones...

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Some homemade bars.

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These were available for sale when our cars were new..

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For my own westy I have a Land Rover item lying in the basement. I'm reluctant to fit it cause I don't reallt want to add weight to this already heavy brick. It does look good though Very Happy Here it is fitted on a doka.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more functional bars cover the nose and lights fairly well plus can hold up to a hit. I like the one on that dark green doka best.

The Rocky Mtn. one looks functional but ugly, and I'm not so sure it'll keep a large deer or moose body from sliding right up into the nose and windshield.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taigagreen, you always post the coolest pics. Very Happy

my fav would have to be the white panel. Very Happy

before the advent of my own economic downturn I worked up in the PDX as a damage writer for a large car rental fleet, a collision with bambi can pretty much ruin your day as well as your vehicle, I'm thinking that most of the bars in this thread wouldn't hold up to a direct hit (except for the moose bars on the semi and I'll bet they would not come away unscathed).

colleagues up in the Great White North tell stories of collision with a moose...not something to joke about.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAPIKAMPER wrote:
before the advent of my own economic downturn I worked up in the PDX as a damage writer for a large car rental fleet, a collision with bambi can pretty much ruin your day as well as your vehicle, I'm thinking that most of the bars in this thread wouldn't hold up to a direct hit (except for the moose bars on the semi and I'll bet they would not come away unscathed).

colleagues up in the Great White North tell stories of collision with a moose...not something to joke about.


Someone recently died in a deer collision up in Northern Idaho, which is not all that uncommon up there, and I've had one hit (the deer hit me - it survived) and many close calls myself in that region. And I suspect you're right - most of these bullbars have a 'coolness' factor but likely not strong enough except for a very low speed hit. A full grown moose's massive body is right at about vanagon windshield level. Don't drive up there at night without a large mounted anti-aircraft high-beam light.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you like the pics Very Happy

All the finnish T3s in the above pics have those bars for a reason. Any wildlife hitting your car in motion will cause damage, even a rabbit.

In Scandinavia we have lots of moose. We actually have the highest moose and deer density in the world. What I've found is that extra driving lights are the defining factor in night driving security. The cervids and the other animals are most active when its dark, and up here we only have a bleak hour of "daylight" in december and january. I mount Bosch Rallye lights on all my cars and I am certain they have saved several moose, reindeer fox, otter, hare, roe deer, red deer, one lynx, a horse and a few cats as well as myself and my syncros.

I feel safer in a T3 because you sit high up. Most cars colliding with moose or other big cervids get the entire impact of the animal on the glass house of the car. Very scary, these are big creatures...

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This one went over the family car and ended up in their caravan... No serious injuries.

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This is no joke...

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The Norwegian Instutite of Transport Economics has calculated that, on average, each time a cars hits a moose it brings a cost to society in the amount of 265.000 NOK (about 45.000$). I find it strange that the authorities yet haven't figured out how much they would save if they just gave away free extra driving lights...

My little safety precaution, always mount extra driving lights:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at this: http://www.vg.no/bil-og-motor/artikkel.php?artid=584577

A guy happened to be taking pictures of a few moose when one of them was hit by a car. No-one was hurt but the moose died and her calf tracked down and shot. The pic of the moose inn the air sais it all really.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: nettiauto bars Reply with quote

could anyone offer suggestions on attaining a front bully bar similar to those pictured in the photos with the nettiauto.com tags.

am in the US. would it be easiest to make? a welding class is on tap in the spring.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a van that is being built in mink creek ID.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome looking van, but my eyes keep thinking it's photoshopped.
Maybe not though.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that is photoshopped but that is what it will look like when its done.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are on one of the syncros in the Samba classifieds;

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met that guy a few years ago when he was just putting that motor in he has a whole yard full of VWs nice guy.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a van that is being built in mink creek ID.

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That is frickin awesome!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: nettiauto bars Reply with quote

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could anyone offer suggestions on attaining a front bully bar similar to those pictured in the photos with the nettiauto.com tags.

am in the US. would it be easiest to make? a welding class is on tap in the spring.


You could try getting in touch with someone in Finland....

Or try Mike at busman.be who has connections there Very Happy
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