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Bones 53 Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: Electric fuel pump cutoff switch |
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Lots of people are asking how to shut off their fuel pump. I had the same concern and didn't like the inertia switch deal. Painless wiring products helped me out with incorporating an electric fuel pump shutoff using a Holley switch and Painless fuel pump relay. i can't say enough about how great painless was when I was wiring my car. They have excellent tech support. This setup works great. The Holley switch allows the fuel pump to pump while cranking the motor and shuts the fuel pump off when there is no oil pressure. Nice safety feature in case of a failure or accident.
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shaneandheth Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2007 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: holley switch install question |
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Hey, I was just reading your post on this install and it's exactly what I'm trying to accomplish with my 71 bus. I appreciate the post and the drawing, but I stil have a couple questions (kind of new to wiring in general). When you run the wire from the relay to the battery (+), where are you tying into the battery positive and when you show that line running through a circuit breaker, I assume that's an inline fuse? What would the amp's be on that?
Also, when you're going from the oil pressure switch, to the ignition switch, where are you tying in for that connection.
My assumption is you're not going directly to the battery terminal or directly to the ignition switch for these two connections. Sorry for the probably lame questions and thanks again for the help.
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nikita Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2007 Posts: 531 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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There is a Nason pressure switch that is rated for high enough current to eliminate the relay from the circuit. I'll find the part number if anyone is interested.
Another pressure switch that may be of use here is a late model (1987-on) Ford oil pressure sender. It is Normally Open instead of the usual Normally Closed idiot light switch used on VW and other cars. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76909 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: |
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You can use a A1 Rabbit FI relay. It has an extra terminal that connects to the coil. As long as the coil is firing it will supply power to the fuel pump. So when you're cranking the engine or it's running the pump will work. If the engine stalls it will turn off.
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70 140 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 8471 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn, That connects to the coil - (negative) I assume? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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70 140 wrote: |
Glenn, That connects to the coil - (negative) I assume? |
31b connect to the #1 post on the coil (points side) _________________ Glenn
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magnus0328 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2006 Posts: 1160 Location: There
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I found an old Rabbit at a junkyard and the fuel pump relay was part # 3.300.220. It has the following terminals:
30
31
15
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1 ( small terminal size)
Will this work or does it have to be the one that is listed above? If so, does terminal 1 take the place of 31b?
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EPETREA Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 391 Location: DFW TX
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Just wondering if this would work with a non points type system(compufire/pertronix)? |
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MRRAGPICKER Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2007 Posts: 423 Location: CHARLESTON W.VA.
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Ian Godfrey Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2006 Posts: 1137 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: |
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mr ragpicker, the CIP relay will NOT do the same thing, it doesn't have the coil connection. I think the golf relay will work as will similar relays from 80's audis and porsche 924's. Places like pelican parts and automotion have the fuel pump relays for about $30. i use this system too rather than the oil pressure system.
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EPETREA Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 391 Location: DFW TX
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CLKWRK Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2001 Posts: 566 Location: Toronto
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