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MargaritaVillain Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 825 Location: Caimanera, Cuba
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: Am I anal retentive or what? |
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Ok, so I am correcting the interior on my Oval and have ordered the plastic parts like collars and knobs of all kinds from different places. I got some from Brezelwerks and some from WW and some from random sellers here on the Samba. My problem is this, the ivory on each one is a little different in shade between the different knobs. Some match, like the ones ones I bought from the same source. Mostly though, they don't match the others from other suppliers. So, were the knobs originally different shades of ivory, or were they all the same? Is there a source to get all the knobs (dash, seats etc.) that the coloring is the same or is there a way to paint them so they all match? I thought about a plastic adhering rattle can paint but I want them to look right and not peel. Any suggestions? |
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spectre6000 Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2009 Posts: 2014 Location: Broomfield, CO
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I understand WW sells rattlecan versions of the original colors. Rough them up a bit with sandpaper, use a plastic friendly primer, then go to town. I'm almost through restoring my steering wheel, but it will stay in primer until the rest of the car goes to paint, at which point all interior goodies will be given a healthy dose of the same color/brand/type of paint so that everything looks correct and matches. It sounds like you might be in a similar situation. _________________ Jason Hopper
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"Buy the best, cry once." -Gene Berg
"A cheap man will always buy the cheapest thing available, and then buys another one hoping for a better result, and then spends the rest of his life in misery complaining about it. A thrifty man will buy a good part once and never think about it again." -RockCrusher
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Russ Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2003 Posts: 1560 Location: Langley B.C.
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:45 am Post subject: |
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your not crazy.
i had mine all sprayed to match in the end because most were different colours _________________ Cruiser pedals for sale (see my ad's)
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rkilbury Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2009 Posts: 175 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Am I anal retentive or what? |
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MargaritaVillain wrote: |
Ok, so I am correcting the interior on my Oval and have ordered the plastic parts like collars and knobs of all kinds from different places. I got some from Brezelwerks and some from WW and some from random sellers here on the Samba. My problem is this, the ivory on each one is a little different in shade between the different knobs. Some match, like the ones ones I bought from the same source. Mostly though, they don't match the others from other suppliers. So, were the knobs originally different shades of ivory, or were they all the same? Is there a source to get all the knobs (dash, seats etc.) that the coloring is the same or is there a way to paint them so they all match? I thought about a plastic adhering rattle can paint but I want them to look right and not peel. Any suggestions? |
i matched my 54 vert ivory color and had a paint shop put it in spray cans for me. i painted my seat frames very carefully and my steering colum, ebrake, and a few small parts. i matched it from an o. g. knob. i may still have a few cans left. it is good quality acrylic enamel. i sold a few cans for $25 each. if interested email or call 954 3479648 rick |
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Alika Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2004 Posts: 100
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Have them all sprayed professionaly. It's a night and day difference from rattle can. |
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Soul Built Pimpin' Aint Easy
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1636 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Alika wrote: |
Have them all sprayed professionaly. It's a night and day difference from rattle can. |
Whats the difference if it is done right? |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9359 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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There are differences in shade between original ivory parts. I have a whole bag of original collars and you can see the difference. And of course some change shade with wear, UV exposure, etc.
Rattle can jobs work good for things that don't get touched. But knobs, and even collars, you don't want to do that. If you are going to spray, best to get those sprayed with a primer and a good urethane paint.
Me, I'd just keep fishing for original ones in good shape that aren't too far off from each other. "Same door" items should be matched, dash to door, you won't notice as much.
And yes, you are anal retentive.............. _________________ John Henry
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Yustrn JHC Controla
Joined: August 01, 2000 Posts: 5478 Location: Ovaland, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Krylon Almond= Show Quality!
_________________ I own a copy of "The Car of the Century" by Garwood. This means I am authorized to act like a twat in thesamba forums. |
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Alika Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2004 Posts: 100
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Consistency / Gloss level. |
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2921 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
There are differences in shade between original ivory parts. I have a whole bag of original collars and you can see the difference. And of course some change shade with wear, UV exposure, etc.
Rattle can jobs work good for things that don't get touched. But knobs, and even collars, you don't want to do that. If you are going to spray, best to get those sprayed with a primer and a good urethane paint.
Me, I'd just keep fishing for original ones in good shape that aren't too far off from each other. "Same door" items should be matched, dash to door, you won't notice as much.
And yes, you are anal retentive.............. |
Go with johnshenry's advice. Use the reproductions to fill the gap while you look for originals. Paint the reproductions for now if you just can't stand it. |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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I actually do offer every oval era knob that was ever available, just not all of them are advertised. I usually produce them by request for the higher end restos that desire matching factory quality or better finish.
The WW asian made variety quality varies alot, some are incorrect, and not all of what were originally used are available. Painting is an option but that tends to make knobs look bloated (whether it be urethane or enamel), usually way too much detail gets lost even when painted by the best. Hunting down all matching color originals works on paper, but from experience seldom have I seen anyone collect them all that actually match, maybe just try to get as close as you can.
Probably just time I get these posted up, likely after we work through some backlog here after the new year, along with a number of new items that have been waiting to be posted. Those interested in ballpark pricing should see our 356 knobs ad, prices should parallel those pretty well for similar applications. |
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MODIFIER Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2006 Posts: 1560 Location: Summerville SC
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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IF you use a mr clean magic eraser on those knobs you will fall over at the difference it will make.
They will turn out beautiful as long as the plastc hasn started layering. _________________ Happyasshell
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1low55vw Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2008 Posts: 75 Location: Southwestern Virginia
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Put a buffing wheel on a grinder or buffing motor and carefully buff them with aluminum or finer buffing compound.
I did all of mine and they all turned out very nice. All the same color.
Just an idea _________________ 55 Sedan
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aa390392 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3602 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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since no 1 answered you ..yea your Anal! |
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MargaritaVillain Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 825 Location: Caimanera, Cuba
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: |
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aa390392 wrote: |
since no 1 answered you ..yea your Anal! |
I think John beat you to that answer on here and my wife beat all of you guys to it years ago. At least I can see I am not the only one who would be bothered by nonmatching knobs. |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9359 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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1low55vw wrote: |
Put a buffing wheel on a grinder or buffing motor and carefully buff them with aluminum or finer buffing compound.
I did all of mine and they all turned out very nice. All the same color.
Just an idea |
Actually, that is good advice, and really should be tried first on original knobs. Very often the variances and shade differences are due to aging of the fine outer surfaces. I have seen old knobs come amazingly to life on a buffing wheel, a little windex afterward to clean off the buffing compound. Get yourself a nice long M5 bolt to spin them onto, for those that have threaded bosses. _________________ John Henry
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