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Vanarchist Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2009 Posts: 33 Location: Central Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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So, I've just come across an ample quantity of 2" steel tubing and a nice deer guard appears to be in the works.
I really appreciate the ingenuity and aesthetics of itzdshtz's and tclark's bumpers and was wondering if anyone had any dimensions on the bumper mounts. _________________ Moving to Portland - looking for friends! |
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FNGRUVN Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2007 Posts: 2237 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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This is a van that Rocky Mountain Westy is putting together. I like how the rear nerf bar flows into the rear bumper. They had to modify the slider door linkage to clear the other side. The way they did it was pretty slick. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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1621 Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2006 Posts: 2174
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I love what Rocky Mountain Westy is producing, but I can't help thinking it looks like an NFL facemask. Definitely burly in appearance, and would probably fair well in a frontal collision.
_________________ '85 Westy |
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FNGRUVN Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2007 Posts: 2237 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="1621"]and would probably fair well in a frontal collision.
I know I could have used it the other day when I hit a deer with my van. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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1621 Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2006 Posts: 2174
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="FNGRUVN"]
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and would probably fair well in a frontal collision.
I know I could have used it the other day when I hit a deer with my van. |
OUCH! I hope you and any passengers were alright, and the deer suffered a lesser fate!
I'd forgotten what it's like living in deer country. Every summer I head to MT I'm reminded about the deer because EVERY truck, semi, and passenger vehicle has some sort of extra front end protection like this - The Moose Bar. This must be where Alaric drew his inspiration!
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: |
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FNGRUVN wrote: |
This is a van that Rocky Mountain Westy is putting together. I like how the rear nerf bar flows into the rear bumper. They had to modify the slider door linkage to clear the other side. The way they did it was pretty slick. |
I like it but I think on tight trails it would make tight turns a little harder it looks like it makes the van longer but the side bars are great. I am glad there is a brush guard around thats weirder than mine. |
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taigagreen Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2005 Posts: 417 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Syncro-Bernds TV project syncro had a real nice look to it, until they painted the details orange. But this cage is soo cool.
All the build pics here
Seems like every T3 in Finland has a bullbar, even the 2wd ones...
Some homemade bars.
These were available for sale when our cars were new..
For my own westy I have a Land Rover item lying in the basement. I'm reluctant to fit it cause I don't reallt want to add weight to this already heavy brick. It does look good though Here it is fitted on a doka.
_________________ 88 Westfalia Club Joker syncro AAZ i/c
99 Transporter syncro 2.5 TDi |
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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The more functional bars cover the nose and lights fairly well plus can hold up to a hit. I like the one on that dark green doka best.
The Rocky Mtn. one looks functional but ugly, and I'm not so sure it'll keep a large deer or moose body from sliding right up into the nose and windshield. |
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HAPIKAMPER Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2009 Posts: 74 Location: NOR CAL
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
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taigagreen, you always post the coolest pics.
my fav would have to be the white panel.
before the advent of my own economic downturn I worked up in the PDX as a damage writer for a large car rental fleet, a collision with bambi can pretty much ruin your day as well as your vehicle, I'm thinking that most of the bars in this thread wouldn't hold up to a direct hit (except for the moose bars on the semi and I'll bet they would not come away unscathed).
colleagues up in the Great White North tell stories of collision with a moose...not something to joke about. |
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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HAPIKAMPER wrote: |
before the advent of my own economic downturn I worked up in the PDX as a damage writer for a large car rental fleet, a collision with bambi can pretty much ruin your day as well as your vehicle, I'm thinking that most of the bars in this thread wouldn't hold up to a direct hit (except for the moose bars on the semi and I'll bet they would not come away unscathed).
colleagues up in the Great White North tell stories of collision with a moose...not something to joke about. |
Someone recently died in a deer collision up in Northern Idaho, which is not all that uncommon up there, and I've had one hit (the deer hit me - it survived) and many close calls myself in that region. And I suspect you're right - most of these bullbars have a 'coolness' factor but likely not strong enough except for a very low speed hit. A full grown moose's massive body is right at about vanagon windshield level. Don't drive up there at night without a large mounted anti-aircraft high-beam light. |
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taigagreen Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2005 Posts: 417 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Glad you like the pics
All the finnish T3s in the above pics have those bars for a reason. Any wildlife hitting your car in motion will cause damage, even a rabbit.
In Scandinavia we have lots of moose. We actually have the highest moose and deer density in the world. What I've found is that extra driving lights are the defining factor in night driving security. The cervids and the other animals are most active when its dark, and up here we only have a bleak hour of "daylight" in december and january. I mount Bosch Rallye lights on all my cars and I am certain they have saved several moose, reindeer fox, otter, hare, roe deer, red deer, one lynx, a horse and a few cats as well as myself and my syncros.
I feel safer in a T3 because you sit high up. Most cars colliding with moose or other big cervids get the entire impact of the animal on the glass house of the car. Very scary, these are big creatures...
This one went over the family car and ended up in their caravan... No serious injuries.
This is no joke...
The Norwegian Instutite of Transport Economics has calculated that, on average, each time a cars hits a moose it brings a cost to society in the amount of 265.000 NOK (about 45.000$). I find it strange that the authorities yet haven't figured out how much they would save if they just gave away free extra driving lights...
My little safety precaution, always mount extra driving lights:
_________________ 88 Westfalia Club Joker syncro AAZ i/c
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ThorAlex Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2006 Posts: 620 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Have a look at this: http://www.vg.no/bil-og-motor/artikkel.php?artid=584577
A guy happened to be taking pictures of a few moose when one of them was hit by a car. No-one was hurt but the moose died and her calf tracked down and shot. The pic of the moose inn the air sais it all really. _________________ 1990 syncro 1.6TD "Smily"
Ex-vans:
1990 Caravelle coach 1.6TD
1986 Transporter Double cab syncro 2.1 112hp
"I'm wrong so often... It's great!" - Adam Savage |
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youremyboyblue Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2009 Posts: 38 Location: whereever my tdi syncro will take me!
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: nettiauto bars |
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could anyone offer suggestions on attaining a front bully bar similar to those pictured in the photos with the nettiauto.com tags.
am in the US. would it be easiest to make? a welding class is on tap in the spring. |
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Here is a van that is being built in mink creek ID.
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Awesome looking van, but my eyes keep thinking it's photoshopped.
Maybe not though. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
(T)exas (C)oalition (B)uses
(H)eidenhammer (B)ully (B)oyz
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Yes that is photoshopped but that is what it will look like when its done. |
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wildenbeast Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2008 Posts: 680 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: |
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These are on one of the syncros in the Samba classifieds;
_________________ - Bill, '93 Eurovan Syncro Weekender (2.5 manual ACU) |
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I met that guy a few years ago when he was just putting that motor in he has a whole yard full of VWs nice guy. |
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HeftySmurf Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 879 Location: Washington, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Alaric.H wrote: |
Here is a van that is being built in mink creek ID.
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That is frickin awesome!!! _________________ -Lorenzo
90 GL w/ Bostig |
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taigagreen Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2005 Posts: 417 Location: Norway
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: nettiauto bars |
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youremyboyblue wrote: |
could anyone offer suggestions on attaining a front bully bar similar to those pictured in the photos with the nettiauto.com tags.
am in the US. would it be easiest to make? a welding class is on tap in the spring. |
You could try getting in touch with someone in Finland....
Or try Mike at busman.be who has connections there _________________ 88 Westfalia Club Joker syncro AAZ i/c
99 Transporter syncro 2.5 TDi |
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