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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2002 Posts: 646 Location: Malvern UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: Spare tire / wheel securing strap? |
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Anybody got an idea where i can get a replacment for this, i know its a sort of heavy duty woven strapping. Also looking for pictures of it and the buckle.
Thanks in advance
Simon
Notes:
Early Barndoors used a leather strap.
Later Barndoor used a textile strap.
The spare wheel strap changed from leather to textile on 8.2.52 (Feb. 8, 1952) at chassis 20-021511
uberwagen wrote: |
Here is a picture that shows it's length in reference to the tire tray
my strap measures 47" from the edge of the tire tray to the end. Annother 2" overlaps the tire tray where it is riveted. 49" total.
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Original 1955 spare tire strap:
Width - 24mm
Clasp end
Strap length is approx. 75mm
Strap is actually twice as long since it's doubled over and riveted into the spare tire tray
Clasp end with long strap tucked in:
Note end of strap detail where it's trimmed in a sort of arrow shape. _________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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BeaterBarndoor Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2000 Posts: 824 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: |
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use late model bus(68-7X?) tire straps. they are basically the same thing. pretty close in every way.same strap bracket, close to the same tin stamped end. fabric...just have to cut it in 2 then rivet into place on the tire try.
dime a dozen in junk yards...unless someone puts the word 'barndoor' on it.
if someone dont beat me to it, i can try to find a picture.i must have one somewhere. |
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BeaterBarndoor Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: |
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good ole samba gallery...
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EverettB Administrator
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paneldave Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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i have seen brown leather belts on a few!! i always thought that that is og.. |
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felix ehrhardt Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have got a brown one in my 52 :
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uberwagen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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close-up of original strap and rivet detail from 54 a micro.
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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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uberwagen wrote: |
close-up of original strap and rivet detail from 54 a micro.
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Could you tell me if your strap is all there? And if so how long it is. I have a piece of that stuff but not sure how long it should be.
Thanks everybody else for info. _________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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Barndoor Mafia Il Capo
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I used my FUBU belt to strap down my chromed 4-1/2!!! |
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uberwagen Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a picture that shows it's length in reference to the tire tray
I can take an exact mesurement tomorrow.
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uberwagen Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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my strap measures 47" from the edge of the tire tray to the end. Annother 2" overlaps the tire tray where it is riveted.
...so 49" total. |
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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated _________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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Stanagon Samba Member
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Clara Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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June '53 standard, original strap buckle part attached to spare tire tray |
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Anchovy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Stanagon wrote: |
According to the Eccles bus spec guide, the spare wheel strap changed to textile (previously leather) on 8.2.52 (Feb. 8, '52) at chassis 20 021 511. |
The very early straps I have seen were leather, the next generation were some sort of textile (cotton?). The bay window straps are nylon. |
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barndoormambo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: |
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..Ok. I have a 'reasonable' modern equivalent. Natural Jute Webbing is very similar in texture & weave; however i can only find it in 2" widths.
Will post how i get on 'modifying' it
by the way- how did the strap end finish on 'late' BDs ?- a metal 'cap' of somesort, i pressume? _________________ ....just cause you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there!.... |
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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:59 am Post subject: |
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No end on mine Tim..its just cut to a point. I repaired mine using a belt from an army supplies stores, and used the original part i had left for the piece that is showing. _________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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barndoormambo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: |
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ah. The webbing i've found is very similar, and seems the right colour.
The buckle is still in place , but the other side of the strap is decomposing..I'll re rivet a complete new strap to the tray, once i've worked out which 'system ' works best.. _________________ ....just cause you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there!.... |
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Rusting Hulk Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Here's what i did Tim, not great but looks ok when the wheels in...The belt i bought is slightly wider, i just hand stitched the two together
_________________ 64 356 C Coupe |
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barndoormambo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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..looks just fine
- as my parts are dirt cheap, i'm gonna have a couple of goes- one folded, one cut , & see what i prefer..
-the Jute is VERY similar in weave to original..
- middle is a piece of my original, left is folded & sealed & right is cut with edge sealed; last one looks best , but is dependant on accurate cutting & has a border akin to a snail's trail in order to avoid the cut edge fraying..
..size comparisson- a reasonable match all round..
_________________ ....just cause you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there!.... |
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