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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: source for dash switch for locker |
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I don't know who has it in stock now.
Does anyone know? Can it be made at home for temporary use? I ve never seen the switch in person... _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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markmc90 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2007 Posts: 295 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Which part of the switch are you looking for? _________________ 87 Syncro |
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targis58 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I am looking for the switch on dash that you pull(or push?) it to engage the locker.
I have a 2wd and considering a 2wd tranny with locker installed. I need to come up with the dash switch to engage it. Can the vacuum hose be found from a hardware store? Thanks _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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vwlovr Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 1122 Location: on the road
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r39o Samba Polizei
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Ouch $80.
There MUST be a better way!
Those amply abundant VAG cruise control vacuum pumps comes to mind there, me thinks for some reason..... _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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So.. what s missing from van-cafe's switch is just the plastic handle?
Can hose be purchased from a hardware store? one of those clear air hose? What are those three legs for? _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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vwlovr Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 1122 Location: on the road
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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i bet other vw switch knobs may fit, maybe older bug/bus knobs?
are you coming to syncro de mayo? maybe you can find a whole assembly there used? or are you trying to get it done for syncro de mayo
i'd call van cafe and ask, they are very nice, maybe they have some used ones laying around. |
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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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vwlovr wrote: |
i bet other vw switch knobs may fit, maybe older bug/bus knobs?
are you coming to syncro de mayo? maybe you can find a whole assembly there used? or are you trying to get it done for syncro de mayo
i'd call van cafe and ask, they are very nice, maybe they have some used ones laying around. |
If I can have my tranny rebuilt with locker and possibly with LSD before SDM, I would love to stop by and test what 2wd with locker can do by following around where syncros go _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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The switch is only one part of the puzzle. The panel and the wiring /air plumbing are needed too. It is best to find someone parting out a syncro and buy the whole panel.
The knob is the same as a headlight switch knob from a type 3(fastback/squareback/notchback) or Ghia.
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targis58 Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2006 Posts: 539 Location: sunnyvale,ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
The switch is only one part of the puzzle. The panel and the wiring /air plumbing are needed too. It is best to find someone parting out a syncro and buy the whole panel.
The knob is the same as a headlight switch knob from a type 3(fastback/squareback/notchback) or Ghia.
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I am aware of the air plumbing. What is the wiring for?
Is panel necessary since I will only have one switch for rear locker? I was thinking about drilling a hole someplace and mount the switch...
If I can find the whole thing that will be great! _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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Orbitald Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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If you find someone with a full set up I need the plastic front panel preferably in brown. _________________ '87 Syncro Westfakia, 1.9TD ADE (AAZish), 068 Injection Pump, K03 turbo, 2.5" exhaust, Mercedes nozzles, SAAB Blackstone charge-cooler w/ 800cfm fan, Micro-1000 EGT sensor pre-turbo, boost at about 13psi, 235/70/16 with stock gearing |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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The wiring is for the back lighting in the panel so you can see the switch to use it at night as well as a indicator light to tell you that you are locked up. You don't want to drive on asphalt locked up.
I suppose that you could drill a hole and mount it somewhere, but the panel would look a lot cleaner. |
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targis58 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Can you feel when the locker is being engaged and disengaged? _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Feel the van driving locked or unlocked? Yes
When locked it doesn't want to turn and will hop and squeal the tires in turns. Making the car foolproof for someone that might drive it other than you is nice(saving you $$ on a broken part) |
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Orbitald Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Can you feel when the locker is being engaged and disengaged? |
Yes but you probably want the indicator light as well. I think its pretty simple to pull two wires from the diff lock switch up to the dash to a relay to trigger a light. Actually I don't think you need a relay as you can run 12V down one leg and the switch would complete the circuit to a 12V lamp when locked. _________________ '87 Syncro Westfakia, 1.9TD ADE (AAZish), 068 Injection Pump, K03 turbo, 2.5" exhaust, Mercedes nozzles, SAAB Blackstone charge-cooler w/ 800cfm fan, Micro-1000 EGT sensor pre-turbo, boost at about 13psi, 235/70/16 with stock gearing |
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vwlovr Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Orbitald wrote: |
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Can you feel when the locker is being engaged and disengaged? |
Yes but you probably want the indicator light as well. I think its pretty simple to pull two wires from the diff lock switch up to the dash to a relay to trigger a light. Actually I don't think you need a relay as you can run 12V down one leg and the switch would complete the circuit to a 12V lamp when locked. |
yeah that's right, it's like the reverse light switch. making a light would be easy. if diff lock panels were easy to come by i'd say get one, but for a 2wd with a locker, i probably wouldn't bother. i have a rear locker and disconnect and that one empty switch position drives me nuts. having two empty ones would really bug me |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10075 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, for an indicator light you only need to run one wire to the back, and let the locker switch ground the light circuit there.
I got one of the OEM "switches" (it's a valve) from VC, but I can see other ways to throw the locker rod, I may not use it. Or I may keep it nearer the servo and work it with a solenoid instead, so the vacuum system is all right near the engine. I would always rather run wire than pipe, if you know what I mean. But then, I could just work the locker directly with a solenoid. Hmmmm. Never been a big fan of big vacuum systems.
The freshly-rebuilt-by-Daryl tranny's been riding the jack for awhile now, from place to place, I'm too busy to stuff it, no engine for it anyway (unless i transplant my daily) and the Syncro tank straps have to be repaired first.
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whafalia Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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targis58 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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tencentlife wrote: |
Actually, for an indicator light you only need to run one wire to the back, and let the locker switch ground the light circuit there.
I got one of the OEM "switches" (it's a valve) from VC, but I can see other ways to throw the locker rod, I may not use it. Or I may keep it nearer the servo and work it with a solenoid instead, so the vacuum system is all right near the engine. I would always rather run wire than pipe, if you know what I mean. But then, I could just work the locker directly with a solenoid. Hmmmm. Never been a big fan of big vacuum systems.
The freshly-rebuilt-by-Daryl tranny's been riding the jack for awhile now, from place to place, I'm too busy to stuff it, no engine for it anyway (unless i transplant my daily) and the Syncro tank straps have to be repaired first.
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I wish it were mine _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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targis58 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, did search but...
Can someone post a photo where locker panel is mounted on dash? I would like to see how it looks. thanks _________________ 90 westy 2wd w/ TBD |
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