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rustbus Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2009 Posts: 2078 Location: alberta
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:28 am Post subject: starter compatibility |
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Hey Guys,
Looking to find out which years starters are interchangeable with others., and if there are differences between automatic transmission starters and manual as well.
In particular, wondering of a 1972 manual tranny starter will work with a 1976 auto tranny (yeah, reaching, i bet) im trying to help a guy troubleshoot his bus.
thanks! _________________ May of '72 Deluxe. 2.0L L-Jet CS & 091 trans conversion
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:35 am Post subject: |
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The manual transmission starters will not work on an automatic transmission setup. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: |
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I believe all the manual starters are interchangable up until around 1975ish when the 091 transmission was born. Starters used on 091's have a longer reach because the bell housing is deeper. If you install the earlier starter it will just spin and never engage the flywheel. I believe that auto starters will work on manuals but not the other way around. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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aeromech wrote: |
I believe all the manual starters are interchangable up until around 1975ish when the 091 transmission was born. Starters used on 091's have a longer reach because the bell housing is deeper. If you install the earlier starter it will just spin and never engage the flywheel. I believe that auto starters will work on manuals but not the other way around. |
The auto starter will only work on the earlier manual transmissions. Once they used the deeper bellhousing one needs a longer starter drive so the automatic will not work. |
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bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3296 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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As I recall years ago thay sold a hi-torque starter (sr17x) for bugs and bus's and it looked or was a auto starter. I wounder if thay realy were more powerful. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Wildthings wrote: |
aeromech wrote: |
I believe all the manual starters are interchangable up until around 1975ish when the 091 transmission was born. Starters used on 091's have a longer reach because the bell housing is deeper. If you install the earlier starter it will just spin and never engage the flywheel. I believe that auto starters will work on manuals but not the other way around. |
The auto starter will only work on the earlier manual transmissions. Once they used the deeper bellhousing one needs a longer starter drive so the automatic will not work. |
Even though I didn't directly say it I meant that an auto starter for late year bus (say 1978) would work on a manual 091. Just to clarify. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
VW type 1 1962,63,65,69,72
VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
VW Jetta
VW Passat
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