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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am interested in what the story is behind the rights to this design

From this thread http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technic...heels.html

I found this "Fuchs cannot sell its wheels to the public;
Porsche owns the commercial rights to the wheels, but has ceased production, save for a limited run in 1998."

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krusher wrote:
I am interested in what the story is behind the rights to this design

From this thread http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technic...heels.html

I found this "Fuchs cannot sell its wheels to the public;
Porsche owns the commercial rights to the wheels, but has ceased production, save for a limited run in 1998."

Confused



Do I detect my question killing this thread to point to the reality that everybody repoping various fuch's is stealing a porsche owned design? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think this thread has much to do with your post.

Porsche never made 17" Fuchs that looked like this. They only added to the lip of a 15" Fuchs.

Lots of companies make a 'Fuchs type wheel'. (and they are 15" like the originals) There are plenty of threads about them. Why not post there?

Maybe start a new thread or post here:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67203&start=440
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottz wrote:
I don't think this thread has much to do with your post.

Porsche never made 17" Fuchs that looked like this. They only added to the lip of a 15" Fuchs.

Lots of companies make a 'Fuchs type wheel'. (and they are 15" like the originals) There are plenty of threads about them. Why not post there?

Maybe start a new thread or post here:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67203&start=440


Ok lets see how that goes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on topic again... those pics are Shocked Drool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iozzio wrote:
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So is that your reply to the legality of the use of this design?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krusher wrote:
So is that your reply to the legality of the use of this design?


The fuchs have been copied by tons of people. Don't single Paul out as he is the only one not making them with a Porsche cap. Subtle differences make his wheel different and unique and more than likely will not be bothered because of this.

Mention this to CIP1 or EMPI or Midland Wheels or FLAT four and who ever else is making them exactly like the originals. Lets leave this thread to the 17" porsche fuch lovers and not people bothered by jargon.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krusher's point is valid

also, are these tuv tested/approved? just asking
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
Krusher's point is valid

also, are these tuv tested/approved? just asking


I will bite. I will be honest, I do not know if the fuchs have copyrights, patents or design marks on the original design or alterations to the original design. If I built them, I would make sure. I am confident Paul has done this. I would guess that if they did, flat four, empi, midlands and iozzio wheels would have had registered letters or attorneys contacting them. And in the event that did happen, none of them would be producing them. On the flip side, if they have not been contacted in one way or another, the above mentioned people probably do not care as much as the three of us do and possibly more. I think most people forget about the original guy only to squeeze dollar bills. All of the above mentioned people are in it to run a business and make money.

And to answer your question Erik, the wheels get tested for weight, bending and breaking limits and they have been certified to work for the intended use. TUV on the other hand, I am not sure.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Airkewld wrote:
Erik G wrote:
Krusher's point is valid

also, are these tuv tested/approved? just asking


I will bite. I will be honest, I do not know if the fuchs have copyrights, patents or design marks on the original design or alterations to the original design. If I built them, I would make sure. I am confident Paul has done this. I would guess that if they did, flat four, empi, midlands and iozzio wheels would have had registered letters or attorneys contacting them. And in the event that did happen, none of them would be producing them. On the flip side, if they have not been contacted in one way or another, the above mentioned people probably do not care as much as the three of us do and possibly more. I think most people forget about the original guy only to squeeze dollar bills. All of the above mentioned people are in it to run a business and make money.

And to answer your question Erik, the wheels get tested for weight, bending and breaking limits and they have been certified to work for the intended use. TUV on the other hand, I am not sure.


It was never a case of you needing to "bite" I just had a simple question and asked it, I made no judgement as to them being right or wrong but people seem to think that that is implied.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing worse than amateur lawyers/Nervous Nellie's etc!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
Krusher's point is valid

also, are these tuv tested/approved? just asking


Erik, they are SFI/DOT tested. Just FYI a person making a wheel is not required to DOT/SFI test their product in this country. It is totally by choice, but it was important enough for me to spend the money to have the testing done. Peace of mind for me and my customers.
I do believe that Krusher has singled me out, I looked and he has not posted in other manufacturer threads concerning Fuchs styled wheels built by other companies.
Krusher if you have the time and like to create drama then contact this company, they would love to hear from you on the situation they have started worldwide. Plenty of legal issues to discuss, brother. Here is a link to get you started http://www.bp.com/bodycopyarticle.do?categoryId=1&...n_the_gulf good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeviMan2001 wrote:
Back on topic again... those pics are Shocked Drool


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheels are awesome!

When you are ready to scale them to 20" for my Touareg, im in. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going to post some pics of the 18's here Paul? Lots of compliments on them at the Airkewld Booth at the Classic!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is for Iozzio 17" wheels let keep it on track
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