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sped372
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 Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:30 am Post subject: New tires, now pulls to the left |
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So I got a good deal on four new rims and tires from craigslist (for the beetle). I swapped them this weekend and now the last remnants of the infamous Super shimmy are gone.
However, I now have a definite pull to the left. I'm perplexed as it sure doesn't seem like just changing wheels and tires should cause this. Pressures are ok, no brakes are hanging up. Could I have had a loose alignment adjustment somewhere that just decided to slide when I jacked up? Thoughts? What to check?
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Gary
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Loose belt in the tires, bent/distorted rim, or even one of the tires in the set you bought is "sawtooth", meaning worn at an angle due to poor alignment. You vehicle may have good alignment; however, whatever vehicle your "new" tires are from may not have had good alignment.
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ashman40
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If you bought the car with the old tires already installed it could be the tires or rims could have been bad. The PO aligned it to compensate and now your new wheels and rims are out of alignment.
You mentioned new rims. If the offset is different then the alignment could have been affected. Your best bet would be to get it aligned at a shop that has worked on Beetles before.
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sped372
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I've been the owner of this car 10 years. I had the previous tires put on and an alignment done years back. These new tires and wheels are new, not just new to me. The guy just got them and decided to go baja instead. I'm pretty confident a bent rim gives a wobble/shake not a steady pull.
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sped372
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Gary
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Well, since you've obviously ruled out everything, go get an alignment.
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dirtkeeper
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Greezy Joe
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If all else is good, ie alignment and no worn out parts, then you have what is called Radial Pull to us down South. As stated before a belt problem in the tire causing this. Rotate front to rear, if it goes away you just proved it.
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ashman40
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| sped372 wrote: |
| I had the previous tires put on and an alignment done years back. These new tires and wheels are new, not just new to me. |
Are the old wheels and the new wheels the same? Are the offsets the same for all the wheels? Are the wheel widths the same (old/new and new/new)? Are all the tires the same size?
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MAYHEM
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With a broken belt; if it pulls to the left it is a belt in the right tire at fault and vice versa.
Swap sides on the front tires. If it pulls the opposite direction, of before the swap, it is the tires.
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