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boognishcometh Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: Vanagon VR6 |
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So just got Ed. '85 VR6. Needs lots of clean up and paint, but runs/drives good. Looking for others who have this swap, opinions/stories?
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:20 am Post subject: |
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There was a thread from a fella doing such swap...I think its not liked as much as it doesn't fit under the lid without modding it like yours, but I guess if you don't use the bed ever who cares right?
I assume you are in the seattle area? |
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VR6 vanagon Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2008 Posts: 93 Location: New Port Richey Florida
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:52 am Post subject: |
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I have done the same conversion to my 82 westy. I love it!
The biggest issue I had was that I had to have a race transmission built to stand up to the newly found torque. A super diff and weddle race gears correctly cured that issue. lol |
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dredward Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 1081
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: |
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purplepeopleeater wrote: |
There was a thread from a fella doing such swap...I think its not liked as much as it doesn't fit under the lid without modding it like yours, but I guess if you don't use the bed ever who cares right?
I assume you are in the seattle area? |
It drives me nuts when people gripe over the raised deck lid. It kills me people are passing up very good engine choices cause they can't see doing it. I had to raise the deck lid a mere 1.5 inches. I sleep on the bottom bunk and my son sleeps up top. Me and my wife have had no probs sleeping on the bottom bunk. If you have access to a vr6 and the price is right, go for it. Don't let a minor issue like raiseing the deck lid steer you toward a choice that will leave you wanting more power.... |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17155 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Nice Ride, Welcome to the samba. _________________ ☮️ |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I had to raise the deck lid a mere 1.5 inches. |
With a VR6? 2WD or 4WD? That's hardly much at all if it's 2WD.
Can you (or anyone) post a picture viewing the rear deck straight on from the back?
That should offer a better perspective of just how far the engine sticks past the rear deck. _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like whoever did the install took the time to brace and finish the cut out. A good sign in my books.
fastwagens did that swap
his pics
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?...t_dir=DESC
Enjoy your new ride!
Neil. (who also has a raised engine lid but nearly as much power _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
VE7TBN |
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't postin a gripe, keep yer knickers outta self defence mode.
I'm up for anything in the back. |
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240Gordy Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 2354 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if all that stuff on top of the engine could be flipped over to the other side. Likely would require fabricating an intake manifold . . . _________________ Tencentlife said,
"So, now that you know what you're doing, go to town."
2010 GOLF TRENDLINE 2.5
1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
H&R SPORT(RED) Springs FRONT , SLAM SPECIALTIES RE6 AIRBAGS REAR |
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James 93SLC Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 937 Location: NE Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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240Gordy wrote: |
I wonder if all that stuff on top of the engine could be flipped over to the other side. Likely would require fabricating an intake manifold . . . |
Wouldn't gain you any real extra clearance if you did that. The valve cover sticks up just as far, and the intake actually fits across it in a recess. _________________ -------------------------
91 Vanagon Carat
93 Corrado SLC
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Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/slc.corrado
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tencentlife "Sometimes a pooka is a problem and sometimes it's just a pooka" |
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snowsyncro Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2009 Posts: 1557 Location: East Preston, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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James 93SLC wrote: |
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I had to raise the deck lid a mere 1.5 inches. |
With a VR6? 2WD or 4WD? That's hardly much at all if it's 2WD.
Can you (or anyone) post a picture viewing the rear deck straight on from the back?
That should offer a better perspective of just how far the engine sticks past the rear deck. |
dredward has a 1.8T in a Syncro I think. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5392 Location: PNW
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boognishcometh Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it was Bern. Origionally I found the van on craigslist. he did a good job with the swap, I have no complaints. Just time to do my thing, pretty it up and whatnot!
And if you're reading this Bern, I took your rack off today to start sanding the roof, and that thing's gotta way well over 100lbs!!! And sturdy as hell! without that rack the front end sits about an inch higher... |
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2978 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I've ridden in that van. It's a good running conversion. Glad to see that it's gone to an owner who will take the time to finish it up.
Bern did do a good job with the initial conversion. At the time he put the VR in there it was his only transportation, and it was pretty impressive how quickly he made a runner out of it.
David |
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SyncroGhia Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2009 Posts: 2458 Location: Highnam, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see another VR6 install.
Is it a 2.8 or 2.9?
Re-moving the inlet manifold.. it's a while since I did a set of chains on one so I can't remeber if there's anything under the extra lumps of rocker cover which stick up either side of the inlet manifold.. It's certainley an idea although you might find you lose power be shortening the inlet manifold... unless you were to stick a turbo or supercharger on it
MG _________________ T3 Syncro 16 S6 Westfalia Limey SOLD
T3 Syncro 6x6 SOLD
T3 RS6 Bluestar
T3 Tristar Syncro 16 SOLD
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Mzwo Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2009 Posts: 194 Location: Vienna, Austria
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dredward Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 1081
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: |
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James 93SLC wrote: |
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I had to raise the deck lid a mere 1.5 inches. |
With a VR6? 2WD or 4WD? That's hardly much at all if it's 2WD.
Can you (or anyone) post a picture viewing the rear deck straight on from the back?
That should offer a better perspective of just how far the engine sticks past the rear deck. |
I will ass sooin as i can. My choice was the 1.8t in a syncro.... |
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casey79westfalia Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 1716 Location: Baltimore
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I want a dang vr6 in my syncro. Here is my problem. I dont want to mutilate the syncro since it is such a valuable model. On the other hand I want it to fit my needs and have the correct power. I noticed a few vr6 conversions notched the decklid area and others did not. Was the notching necessary? I wish I had a vr6 engine made out of foam so I could place it in there and see what I need to do to make this happen. My garage height is low so i can lift the van much, I dont plan on 4 wheeling at all, but there will be the occasional campsite off road. That video of the dude drifiting so excites me to do it. Right now its either vr6 or tdi. The tdi fits which is nice but wont touch a vr6 in power or sound and is a very pricey conversion. Fastwagens seems to be the cleanest install I have seen so far. If anyone has anymore pics please point me in the right direction. Vr6's are damn reliable as well. I had a corrado slc years ago and I want that motor back. Dime a dozen now. _________________ 66 Westfalia
87 Westfalia Syncro "Phoenix"
88 Double Cab
76 Porsche 914
2014 Audi Q7
2010 Tdi Sportwagen
Currently looking for 62 Double Cab, 66 Westfalia Parts!
(Rear seat and pedestal, bumpers, mirrors)
http://www.baycountrymotors.com
My 87 Syncro Westfalia 1.8t Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418933
"Do it the right way, or you'll pay for it" |
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casey79westfalia Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 1716 Location: Baltimore
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Also can you still have the 4wd?? Or do you have to use a standard 2wd trans. Would defeat the purpose of having a syncro. _________________ 66 Westfalia
87 Westfalia Syncro "Phoenix"
88 Double Cab
76 Porsche 914
2014 Audi Q7
2010 Tdi Sportwagen
Currently looking for 62 Double Cab, 66 Westfalia Parts!
(Rear seat and pedestal, bumpers, mirrors)
http://www.baycountrymotors.com
My 87 Syncro Westfalia 1.8t Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418933
"Do it the right way, or you'll pay for it" |
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kayakwesty Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2007 Posts: 687 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Love it!
Do you have pic of the deck.
That's a great motor _________________ 1984 Westy 2.0 Jetta ABA Motor/1.8 head converted to auto tranny, with 180,000 on body, 55K on engine and transmission
B.5.5 Passat Wagen with 30v V6-67000 Miles
DAS AUTO
CHANGE YOUR FUEL LINES!
A post without pictures is useless
http://www.kayakwesty.com
http://www.waldensridgewhitewater.com/ |
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