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RichOakley
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 Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: Cable brakes- Adjuster cone locating pins.... |
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I've been having problems adjusting my cable brakes as one adjuster cone had siezed. I have now freed this off, but noticed that the two brake shoe retainer/adjuster pins are different lengths. All the old 1940s parts manuals list one single part (part number 6 06 209). Should these two be different lengths, and if so, which one fits on which side of the cone??
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nlorntson
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Interesting question. All of mine are the longer 35mm with the 10mm slice but I'm in need of one more, and a possible seller showed pictures of the short one and long ones. I never knew there were two different lengths.
Anyone have a longer one they can sell? The guy I'd like to buy from has not responded to my emails  |
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passoa55 
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rich, do you have pics?
No it is not that easy to adjust, depends on weather too.
Mine are working fine now.
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nlorntson
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Hi Rich, do you have pics?
No it is not that easy to adjust, depends on weather too.
Mine are working fine now. |
Here you go:
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RichOakley
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| nlorntson wrote: |
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Hi Rich, do you have pics?
No it is not that easy to adjust, depends on weather too.
Mine are working fine now. |
Here you go:
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Thanks for the pic Nancy. That's exactly what I have. But why do I have one long and one short?? |
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nlorntson
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No idea on the short ones. The functional distance from the bottom of the notch to the tip that touches the cam appears to be about the same length so the difference is in how the shoe engages with the pin. As such, I think both will work just fine.
I wonder if there is a difference in the design of the shoe at some point that required a different pin?
My 1949 and 1950 spare parts books show the same part# and they say 8 pieces so I think they should be all the same length, front and back. |
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RichOakley
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:00 am Post subject: |
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No idea on the short ones. The functional distance from the bottom of the notch to the tip that touches the cam appears to be about the same length so the difference is in how the shoe engages with the pin. As such, I think both will work just fine.
I wonder if there is a difference in the design of the shoe at some point that required a different pin?
My 1949 and 1950 spare parts books show the same part# and they say 8 pieces so I think they should be all the same length, front and back. |
the 46 and 48 parts books also only show the one part. |
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Richard Hartel
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Uff Da Nancy, I sent you 2 long pins today and those adjustor bolts and one spring. Also included a bonus for you and the Mr. |
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Suboval
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On some of the hydraulic brakes, there is a spacer added to one of the adjusting nut- which makes the adjusting nut/screw assembly longer than the other.
Same concept for cable brakes?
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RichOakley
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| Suboval wrote: |
On some of the hydraulic brakes, there is a spacer added to one of the adjusting nut- which makes the adjusting nut/screw assembly longer than the other.
Same concept for cable brakes? |
Is there? I have never come across this either. |
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Suboval
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| RichOakley wrote: |
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On some of the hydraulic brakes, there is a spacer added to one of the adjusting nut- which makes the adjusting nut/screw assembly longer than the other.
Same concept for cable brakes? |
Is there? I have never come across this either. |
Yes. Take a look in the Split Spare Parts List or the Split Owner's Manual.
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RichOakley
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| Suboval wrote: |
| RichOakley wrote: |
| Suboval wrote: |
On some of the hydraulic brakes, there is a spacer added to one of the adjusting nut- which makes the adjusting nut/screw assembly longer than the other.
Same concept for cable brakes? |
Is there? I have never come across this either. |
Yes. Take a look in the Split Spare Parts List or the Split Owner's Manual.
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nlorntson
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| Richard Hartel wrote: |
| Uff Da Nancy, I sent you 2 long pins today and those adjustor bolts and one spring. Also included a bonus for you and the Mr. |
w00t!! Thanks Rich. I may have a surprise for you too...Stay tuned. |
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