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damicotile Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2004 Posts: 1069 Location: WOODLAND CA.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: Changing heads |
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I am changing heads to Tims Stage 2's.
My question is, is there a trick to locking down the cylinders while removing the old heads without disturbing the bases?
Resealing those are a pain. _________________ '73 SB
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ALB Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2008 Posts: 3483 Location: beautiful suburban Wet Coast of Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi Guido! Good question. If you don't disturb the seal of the bases when you take the heads off, use some tubing (a little bigger than the studs and already cut to length) and the head nuts to keep the cylinders seated. 2 per cylinder will be enough to keep them secure. Of course, if at any time a cylinder comes loose the base will have to be cleaned and sealer reapplied. What did you seal the bases with? _________________ On a lifelong mission to prove (much to my wife's dismay) that Immaturity is Forever!! |
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DarthWeber Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2007 Posts: 7543 Location: Whittier,CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I think he wants to know how to lock the cylinders in place before removing the heads so getting the heads loose won't disturb the cylinder to case seal. This is a crazy idea but if you can tie the cylinders on opposite sides together with rope or strapping?? Run it over the top fins of the cylinders and tighten it down so both sides stay firmly attached to the case. Oooh, cylinder bondage, I'm getting excited! _________________
Mitey62 wrote: |
Swapped the Compufire for a Bosch blue and some points I had sitting around, started 1st crank. Took her out for a drive, pulls harder, more RPM, and runs smoother. I think I'll be sticking with points from now on. |
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JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26787 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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lol
oh jeez!
Cylinder bondage?
I don't know why but that's funny to me |
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jfats808 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 5022 Location: oahu hawaii
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: |
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No tricks to this one. Just wiggle the heads to unseat it from the cylinders. Normally this doesnt disturb the seal when i do it. If it does, just reapply sealant. Happens to one on rare occasion. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD !
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You might as well put 10 year build in your bullshit sig, as it will NEVER run. Also your a dick |
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ALB Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Darth! You have a very active imagination and way too much time on your hands! Get back in the garage! _________________ On a lifelong mission to prove (much to my wife's dismay) that Immaturity is Forever!! |
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DarthWeber Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2007 Posts: 7543 Location: Whittier,CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Couldn't help it guys, it's Halloween time!!! _________________
Mitey62 wrote: |
Swapped the Compufire for a Bosch blue and some points I had sitting around, started 1st crank. Took her out for a drive, pulls harder, more RPM, and runs smoother. I think I'll be sticking with points from now on. |
RockCrusher wrote: |
JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. |
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damicotile Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2004 Posts: 1069 Location: WOODLAND CA.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm using that Permatex hi-temp black silicon. No leaks but I have had to remove the heads twice, once cuz I ate a carb manifold washer at cam
break-in and once when I thought I had a head leak and both times the barrels came loose. I resealed them but what a pain. I was thinking that if the case was drilled and inserts put in (4) beside the barrel bases, a jig type clamp which would go into the fins and then bolted to those inserts it would lock the barrels in place so the head could be removed for anything from head changes to PR seal replacements without disturbing the seal.
Just a thought.
Resealing without completely removing the barrels suck.
If I did remove the barrel off the piston would the rings have to be replaced or could you just hone the barrels and use the same rings? _________________ '73 SB
82x94
W-120 w/ CB light weight lifters
Silicon bronze sleeves
Scat 1.25:1
CB H-Beams
Straight cuts
42x37 Steve Tims
44 IDF's
9.2:1
A-1 Sidewinder coated
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DarthWeber Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Even if you have to remove the barrels you usually don't need to replace the rings or hone the barrels unless you have a fair amount of mileage on the motor or you were burning oil.
I think drilling extra holes in the case should be avoided if possible. My 2 cents. _________________
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Swapped the Compufire for a Bosch blue and some points I had sitting around, started 1st crank. Took her out for a drive, pulls harder, more RPM, and runs smoother. I think I'll be sticking with points from now on. |
RockCrusher wrote: |
JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. |
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