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Entong
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Thanks for the picture, it's now on line on VW-Mplate.com 
The code letter is only for the Emden factory.
The '806' and '811' code was for Westfalia, like '807' is between
then it was possible than '807' was a spécial paint code for
Westfalia, but with a middle and a rear seats, I don't think it's can be this 
Sorry I have no more informations for the moment.
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srfndoc
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Thanks for the picture, it's now on line on VW-Mplate.com
The code letter is only for the Emden factory.
The '806' and '811' code was for Westfalia, like '807' is between
then it was possible than '807' was a spécial paint code for
Westfalia, but with a middle and a rear seats, I don't think it's can be this
Sorry I have no more informations for the moment. |
Definitely not a Westy. Thanks for your help. |
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Vis
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Location: Knoxville, TN
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http://www.vw-mplate.com/mcode_draw_mplate.php?id=5074
does anyone know what 790 and 794 are?
my interior panels are blue and white. are they original? the headliner is missing. the m-code is 522552, which is neptune blue and cloud white on top for the exterior and unknown for the interior.
793 - Production number indicating a special note in the German licence papers, saying that a Trumatic SB2000 gas heater has been fitted.
someone posted earlier that this does not apply to '68 models. has anyone solved this dilemma?
what exactly is a laminated windscreen?
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busdaddy
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http://www.vw-mplate.com/mcode_draw_mplate.php?id=5074
does anyone know what 790 and 794 are?
my interior panels are blue and white. are they original? the headliner is missing. the m-code is 522552, which is neptune blue and cloud white on top for the exterior and unknown for the interior.
793 - Production number indicating a special note in the German licence papers, saying that a Trumatic SB2000 gas heater has been fitted.
someone posted earlier that this does not apply to '68 models. has anyone solved this dilemma?
what exactly is a laminated windscreen? |
Post some pics of the interior, those 68's had some interesting interior choices and a Euro market one even more.
A laminated windscreen is made from 2 layers of glass laminated together with a thin layer of vinyl opposed to a solid tempered piece like the side windows.
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carocha4ever
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Does anyone know the following codes:
C57 and G02
From 77 European westfalia.
Thanks for your help. |
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thesamwise4
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Here's my M-Code. I was able to decode some of it, but not all.
I have a 1969 Campmobile.
03 2
518
21 426 (G,6?)67 507 517
UT 2310 523331 9119658
Thanks for any help! |
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Entong
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srfndoc
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Here's my M-Code. I was able to decode some of it, but not all.
I have a 1969 Campmobile.
03 2
518
21 426 (G,6?)67 507 517
UT 2310 523331 9119658
Thanks for any help! |
Original owner picked it up in Germany, pretty cool.
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VDUBROCKER
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UR it says on here in the tech section that it means USA Reserve? what the heck does that mean thanks ! 
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rovnrev
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Just got a 68
11 1
507 525
21 426 016 043 500
US 2310 42436 8079663
Decode Results:
Production Date: January 11, 1967
Exported To: USA, Seattle
Designation: Kombi
Paint Scheme: Lotus White
Paint Codes: L282
Interior Scheme: beige
Interior Material: leatherette
Options
507: Vent wings in cab doors
525: Three-point safety belts front, left and right and lap belts in passenger compartment
426: Specifications for the USA M020, M047, M102, sealed beem headlamps... (?)
016: ?
043: ?
500: Full-width partition lower with two-seat passenger seat
I haven't found any answers for 016 or 043 yet. Any ideas?
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dugfresh
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Just signed papers on my camper Stella. She's been sitting in my driveway for 6 months waiting. So now, wanting to do some real work on her I thought I should get some info and that led me here to this site and the helpful info on finding that tricky build plate. After some trick photography and stitching I finally came up with
Model *** Unknown ***
Chassis number ??82061420
Serial number 061 420
Modelyear 1978
Planned production date
Thursday, 24 November 1977
Number for production planning
(temporary serial number) 7421
Type of engine Type 4 (GE) - 1970cc, 51 kW (70 bhp DIN)
Type of transmission Manual 4-speed gearbox
Paint color Color upper part : L63H - Sage Green
Color lower part : L63H - Sage Green
Interior color (doorpanels and seats) 77 - *** Unknown ***
Destination USA, Portland
She's now residing in Seattle, not too far from where she started. We're both Sagitarius too! |
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type2much
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Help please! I did the m-code decoder for my 69 and it did not give me a production date. This is what the plate has on it:
14 0E
21 425 508 697
UH 2211 226133 9049661
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molenari
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Help please! I did the m-code decoder for my 69 and it did not give me a production date. This is what the plate has on it:
14 0E
21 425 508 697
UH 2211 226133 9049661 |
The first line says '14 0E', this stands for:
14th of October, 1968 (model year 1969 started in august 1968)
The 'E' means it was built in Emden instead of Hannover.
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type2much
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Help please! I did the m-code decoder for my 69 and it did not give me a production date. This is what the plate has on it:
14 0E
21 425 508 697
UH 2211 226133 9049661 |
The first line says '14 0E', this stands for:
14th of October, 1968 (model year 1969 started in august 1968)
The 'E' means it was built in Emden instead of Hannover. |
thank-you for the info! something seems strange because my flasher relay is not the 9 prong type shown in the Bently manual for 68-69 but is the 4 prong shown for the 1970 wiring diagram. The bus and it's wiring are very original.
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molenari
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| Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:56 am Post subject: flashing indicator relay on 1969 type 2 |
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| thank-you for the info! something seems strange because my flasher relay is not the 9 prong type shown in the Bently manual for 68-69 but is the 4 prong shown for the 1970 wiring diagram. The bus and it's wiring are very original. (...) |
That's an interesting one. I don't have a 69 bus to check for myself. The Bentley wiring diagrams are copied from VW. And even the VW diagrams are not always 100% correct when it comes to years and optional extra's for example. So I did some research.
Looking at the wiring diagrams it seems there are two types of relays:
 a complicated relay with 9 connections, but with a simple 2-connection emergency light switch
a simple relay with 4 connections but a complicated emergency light switch with multiple connections (later on the shape changed so the relay would fit in the fuse box)
Apparently some of the relay functions were transferred to the switch.
I looked in the august 1970 edition of the baywindow parts catalog. It says the emergency light switch changed with chassis number 218 098 285:
partnr 111 953 235 E (until chassisnr 218 098 285)(M524: US-specs)
On the drawing the this switch looks like a simple one with 2-connections.
partnr 211 953 235 A (from chassisnr 218 098 286 onward)(M524: US-specs)
On the drawing in the parts manual this is clearly a bigger switch with 9 connections.
Looking at the story above I think I can be relatively certain when I say the relay changed at chassisnr 218 098 286. This is somewhere during model year 1968. Judging from the dates and chassis numbers that I previously spotted on Mplates, I'd say the relay change was done around february 12th 1968
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molenari
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| Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: Re: flashing indicator relay on 1969 type 2 |
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about the flasher relay:
I see now it is also specifically mentioned in technical bulletin E-43 from February 1968. The drawing of the wiring for US-specs buses shows a relay with connections KBL, 49+, 49a and ground. The emergency light switch has connections 54, 54f, 49a, R, L, 30, 15 and +.
If needed to convince you I can scan it and post it. It's in German.
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Runner423
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Hey, I am looking at a 71 tin top camper, and wanted to make sure its legit and not cobbled together.
I have ran the M code to find as much information as possible, but have not figure out how to confirm that this is real camper and not just had the interior added at some point (is there a code for this option)? Here is the code:
12 240 574
060651 A02 507 697
24 5 7055 UB 2110 21
Also what about the window behind the sliding door, it is only blocked on the passenger side? Was this a factory option or just a PO fill in?
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Thanks for any help
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busdaddy
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VW didn't sell any campers converted from panels, looks like an enterprising conversion company bought it new stateside and added thier windows and interior.
Looks like a nice bus regardless, a great base for your own personalized custom camper.
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molenari
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| VW didn't sell any campers converted from panels, looks like an enterprising conversion company bought it new stateside and added thier windows and interior. |
That's right. Camper companies usually bought brand new Kombi's (delivery van with windows) or microbuses (with the option of being delivered to them without the bench seats in the back).
About the window in the sliding door:
looking at the M-plate it seems like your bus was originally panelvan. So the sliding door was a closed panel van sliding door without the window.
It could be someone cut the metal and built in the window that's there now. However if the window frame is very nice and looks factory made (similar construction as the window frame in the rear hatch or the window frame of the windshield) then someone probably repaced the sliding door.
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