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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: direction for a '52 |
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my wife said "its time that you do some thing with the split" she got me the birth cert for christmas and I feel the urge to do some thing with it
clean car, need a apron change but other than that it is solid
original paint on dash and heater channnels
my ques\tion is what should i do with it? strip and restore or drive with the character it has? _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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52HoffmanSplit Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2006 Posts: 1272 Location: Lamorinda CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Great body.. looks VERY clean and straight.... I envy your project!
It appears the body is off the pan.. there is no wiring harness in it I can see... and even though the dash paint is original its surface rusted.... different color outside paint really cinches it. This thing is aching for a media blast for the body and pan and do it right.. powder coat that pan and build it up first... have the body done.. save up the parts you need.. and do it yourself!!
Make it what you want it.... but just my opinion, in the long run.. if you do it stock you will make FAR more money off it if you ever decide to sell it, and you might. Even I have considered it.. I LOVE my Split... but frankly the first person who came at me with a completely restored 912 could probably talk me out of it.. _________________ DB
9/1950 Hoffman Standard
11/1966 Porsche 912
10/1966 Porsche 912
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the reply
just sold a 911
no room for our new born little girl in a porsche s\plit might be a college fund in future
i have collect most part (need doors)
pan is in good shape
hope to take the baby this spring _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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74.8 crank plus a deitqz manifold _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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need a set of doors I only have early ovals
it is from begium no wiring but solid as a rock. pan has og halves _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24119 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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type4split wrote: |
my question is what should i do with it? strip and restore or drive with the character it has? |
That old "resale red" paint has lost any character.
Stock rocks. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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going to start with getting pan blasted. it has a few pin holes, but nothing
major, should I weld them holes up? bout the side of a pencil erasier here and there. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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fast forward 10 years......
body is pretty much the same. '67 apron has been removed. obtained correct doors, correct drivers front and rear split fenders
save for correct pre '52 split doors (cool original interior paint.
lots of cleaning
picked up a oval era trans and early bus cone
bolted in with rebuilt starter
Superior shifter for fun
_________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 pm Post subject: leave the splitb as is |
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type4split wrote: |
thanks for the reply
just sold a 911
no room for our new born little girl in a porsche s\plit might be a college fund in future
i have collect most part (need doors)
pan is in good shape
hope to take the baby this spring |
… you've had that split, in your garage, for quite a while - been lookin' at it in your gallery - my '50 is in similar shape - i'd leave the apron and use it as is - who cares about the (stupid) money - i'm the guy who bought that '50 with the oval doors, in Oklahoma - we PM'd about it - couldn't care less about the later doors - will keep it forever - our son loves it too - will put it in his trust, along with our farm...
… put him through collage partially, by selling a few busses - he graduated debt-free - thanks VWs - this 11A was my car, in NJ, 40 years ago... z
_________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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ya, owned it since 2003. apron was removed years ago. I have a couple pre 55 aprons to replace it. been on a parts collecting journey
putting the car together as is so I can drive. my daughter is helping ( in pics)
one day these things might pay for her college too. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:03 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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type4split wrote: |
ya, owned it since 2003. apron was removed years ago. I have a couple pre 55 aprons to replace it. been on a parts collecting journey
putting the car together as is so I can drive. my daughter is helping ( in pics)
one day these things might pay for her college too. |
… See you have a '55 convertible #2 and a '63 "milo" - there is a great California Latin-jazz band named MILO - originally the Malibu's, featuring Carlos Santana's brother, on guitar also any relation, to your '63? - z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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[quote="type4split"]fast forward 10 years....
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Love your access - i'm with ya' there, bro. - z
_________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:55 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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You are going to want to fix these two items.
You need to replace the metal that was cut out of the front doughnut mount for the transmission. With that much metal missing the mount will be very lose and the transmission nosecone could actually work its way out. All of the weight of the engine is pressing up in that location and all of the torque will transmitted to that missing spot, at least on deceleration. You are also missing the metal retainer that holds the rubber in the hole.
The center tunnel is an important part of the structure of the car and with that much cut out you could have problems with frame flex. In an accident is where it may rear its head the worst.
_________________ Chris
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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"splitjunkie"
I seen a post of a guy that fixed the same problem on nose cone area. took a piece of strap steel, heated and bent a curve. welded in place. that will prob be my approach.
on the "window" in the tunnel agree, this one is a little large. must have been done back in the day. I've seen a number of people drilling, cutting, etc in to tunnel to access cables. how much do I need to replace? i'm running a 36hp with a Pepco. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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caleb0101 Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2014 Posts: 524 Location: Bristol Connecticut
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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type4split wrote: |
my wife said "its time that you do some thing with the split" she got me the birth cert for christmas and I feel the urge to do some thing with it
clean car, need a apron change but other than that it is solid
original paint on dash and heater channnels
my ques\tion is what should i do with it? strip and restore or drive with the character it has? |
the rear bumper brackets are also 67 only _________________ Ruby red 1967 beetle sedan with a 2021cc
1967 beetle sedan baja project
April 60 euro spec ragtop beetle with a 1641cc |
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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looking back that whole '67 clip should have been cut off. I have Wolf panels or a full rear early clip. just waiting on cosmetic stuff till its rolling. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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type4split wrote: |
"splitjunkie"
I seen a post of a guy that fixed the same problem on nose cone area. took a piece of strap steel, heated and bent a curve. welded in place. that will prob be my approach.
on the "window" in the tunnel agree, this one is a little large. must have been done back in the day. I've seen a number of people drilling, cutting, etc in to tunnel to access cables. how much do I need to replace? i'm running a 36hp with a Pepco. |
I would replace it all. There is supposed to be metal there for a reason. There is no reason for that hole under normal circumstances. Unless the clutch tube has broken from its mounting bracket there is absolutely zero reason for a hole there. _________________ Chris
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:13 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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...carry on my friend - remember, there is no one-way to do anything - you'll have your critics and your supporters - we're all just in different places - following one of the countless paths in life - an openminded view is just to (try) to accept as-many-as-you-can, if not all...
…/ i'm just diggin' your very cool as is, '52 - mr. z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
All super-heroes, wear a MASK
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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Need some advice. Trying to install a new throttle cable. The tube is dented and Possibly bent
The rigid carb end won’t pass through 1st inch. How to over come?
Cut short? Grind attachment weld and press in matching ID to open ? _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:35 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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type4split wrote: |
Need some advice. Trying to install a new throttle cable. The tube is dented and Possibly bent
The rigid carb end won’t pass through 1st inch. How to over come?
Cut short? Grind attachment weld and press in matching ID to open ? |
… that same thing happened in my 11G, back in '77 - I got 2 (old) cables and cut the rigid end offa' one and passed it through the tube - then I made a loop in the end of the cable - took my second cable and cut the rigid-end off WITH extra cable and made another loop in that one too - joined the loops - had a little extra slop, but the 25 didn't seem to mind...
… These days, they sell a rigid end separately - cut the old end off - pass it through the tube and install your new rigid end - z _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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