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climberjohn Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 1840 Location: Portland Orygun
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Timwhy,
Crafty tip on the long zip ties as a wire snake; that's a good trick.
May I ask why you went with blue?
I can see the blue for some indirect mood lighting.
But such an oft-used area like over the flip-up cabinets and stove/sink seems to require more "normal" white lighting.
What happens when you drop some blueberries or Viagra pills? You'll have a really hard time finding them!
But, to each his own, and I hope it works for you.
Cheers,
CJ _________________ '86 Westy, 2.5 Subaru power
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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climberjohn wrote: |
Timwhy,
Crafty tip on the long zip ties as a wire snake; that's a good trick.
May I ask why you went with blue?
I can see the blue for some indirect mood lighting.
But such an oft-used area like over the flip-up cabinets and stove/sink seems to require more "normal" white lighting.
What happens when you drop some blueberries or Viagra pills? You'll have a really hard time finding them!
But, to each his own, and I hope it works for you.
Cheers,
CJ |
With the stock Kitchen lamp lit up there's enough "white" light to see bye.
The blue is for mood as well as being able to see what's there. Besides I don't use
the stove for anything more than coffee and maybe toast. I do all the cooking out
side of the van.
My stock KL isn't really stock either. The PO had replaced the Flouresant light with
three individual LEDs with their own switches inside the stock unit.
One brighter than the next, so I think I have enough White Light. _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
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climberjohn Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 1840 Location: Portland Orygun
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Gotcha.
I did not see the stock white light in your photos, maybe I missed it. Nice work, I do like the alternate colors for mood lighting.
-CJ _________________ '86 Westy, 2.5 Subaru power
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rockfish Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 740 Location: Palo Alto, Calif.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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The other nice thing about a blue, red or orange night light is that the passenger's can turn that light on while you're driving and it won't be as much of a distraction. Not so much to read by - but if they're trying to find something in a bag, etc. _________________ 89 Westy
GW 2.5 5-speed trans
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Question, I see in one picture that a C-channel peice of metal was used then another an angle one....my question is.
the c-channel would hide everything better but will this cut down my reflective area? I don't want the light directed in one spot (this is going over the cabinets. |
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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climberjohn Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 1840 Location: Portland Orygun
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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purplepeopleeater wrote: |
Question, I see in one picture that a C-channel peice of metal was used then another an angle one....my question is.
the c-channel would hide everything better but will this cut down my reflective area? I don't want the light directed in one spot (this is going over the cabinets. |
On p 2 of this thread, heliodon cleverly used an "L" to mount lights over the sink/stove, and a "C" to mount lights over the bench seat. This appears to be a great approach, as each shape directs lights to the proper spot. (i.e., For over the cabinets, the L shape seems a better choice.)
I recently bought from a hardware store a 4 foot strip of black C shaped aluminum, intended for track shelves, that I hope to use over the bench seat in the same manner as heliodon. I will post back here once it's up.
-CJ _________________ '86 Westy, 2.5 Subaru power
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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climberjohn wrote: |
purplepeopleeater wrote: |
Question, I see in one picture that a C-channel peice of metal was used then another an angle one....my question is.
the c-channel would hide everything better but will this cut down my reflective area? I don't want the light directed in one spot (this is going over the cabinets. |
On p 2 of this thread, heliodon cleverly used an "L" to mount lights over the sink/stove, and a "C" to mount lights over the bench seat. This appears to be a great approach, as each shape directs lights to the proper spot. (i.e., For over the cabinets, the L shape seems a better choice.)
I recently bought from a hardware store a 4 foot strip of black C shaped aluminum, intended for track shelves, that I hope to use over the bench seat in the same manner as heliodon. I will post back here once it's up.
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I think this is how i'll do it, L above the sink/stove and C over the bench.
I want to put micro switches on these however, radio shack sells really small push button ones that you can solder in...I should draw up a wiring diagram first as I want to have these come on when the doors open. and have a switch that they can be manually turned on. |
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heliodon Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: |
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The aluminum sections I used to mount my Oznium linear LED strips serve two purposes: 1) they neaten up the installation and 2) they shield the bright LED light sources from the direct view of our Westies’ occupants. The trimming function is pretty subjective so we can all do that to taste. The shielding function is a more quantitative geometry / finish properties exercise. The idea would be to prevent line of sight to the LEDs (or their bright reflection) from any common, nearby point of view while minimizing obstruction to the useful flow of light.
Since the LED strip over the side counter is only viewed from one side, an L-shaped angle section is sufficient to shield the strip. The light over the rear seat can be seen from the front and the back so a C-channel used there shields the strip from both points of view. One thing I noticed while putting my installation together was that the inside surface of my clear anodized aluminum channel did an excellent job of reflecting the bright LEDs. This is good for getting light out of the “fixture” but bad from a glare perspective since the reflection was almost as bright as the carefully shielded LEDs. I worked around this by covering the offending surface with black tape (in my case leftover Velcro.) Climberjohn’s C-channel with a black finish should be a good approach – I am interested to see how it turns out.
I think C-channel would work fine over the side counter, especially if you do something to tone down the back reflection from the inside surface, but an L-shape section is better.
BTW, I recently checked the Oznium WWW site and they have a new wireless remote for the LEDs with eight-step dimming. The system appears to have two circuits but, sadly, they are only used for flashing back and forth for a "wig-wag" effect. What I would really like is a remote that controls on/off and dimming individually on two (or more) circuits. _________________ Cheers,
Cris
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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purplepeopleeater wrote: |
I think this is how i'll do it, L above the sink/stove and C over the bench.
I want to put micro switches on these however, radio shack sells really small push button ones that you can solder in...I should draw up a wiring diagram first as I want to have these come on when the doors open. and have a switch that they can be manually turned on. |
You can probably tap into the power at the drivers' side map light and run the wires back
to the shelf and then onto the rear bench. There's a constant power from this location
and putting in a switch is easy to do, but will the switch be controlling both sets of lights?
Or will you need two switches? The mirco switches that RS sells are rated for AC not DC
for the most part. They will work for what you are doing, so don't let that throw you off. _________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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climberjohn Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 1840 Location: Portland Orygun
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Schweeeeet, I like it!
I tell ya, these Alpina lights are pretty addictive. I just want to add more and more and . . .
CJ _________________ '86 Westy, 2.5 Subaru power
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markz2004 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2007 Posts: 944 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Tim,
I like the cutting board you have over your sink. Any info on this little gem?
Mark _________________ 87 Westy, 250k GW 2.4 - 2.0 , 16" wheels |
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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markz2004 wrote: |
Tim,
I like the cutting board you have over your sink. Any info on this little gem?
Mark |
Not my idea Mark, but I too like it for cutting up Oranges for the Blue Moon!
I can't remember which Samba member posted the pics of their cutting board but
I too liked it.
My cutting board is Bamboo and is the perfect width of the sink, I did have to cut
the length down and cut a notch in it to keep it somewhat in place. Also there is
a notch taken out for the faucet. I think the origainal poster of the idea put
bumpers on the bottom of the cutting board to line up with the sink well for more stability.
It may have been from the What Have You Done Thread, sorry can't remember.
I'm sure some bright individual will speak up and take credit. Any way if you need
close up pics let me know?
_________________ '15 Audi A3 Quattro
'09 VW Tiguan (dead)
'87 VW Westy
'91 Tin Top
'90 Cabby
What the Westy wants the Westy GETS
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populuxe59 Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2007 Posts: 87 Location: Green Bay
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I really like the lights. I've seen the strip type on dealextreme for awhile but haven't tried any. Do these lights (Alpeen) handle the higher charging voltage, or do you have to add a resistor?
The blue lighting--very cool. A military guy I know told me the U.S. uses blue in it's armored fighting vehicles for night time use, while most the Europeans use red. The German tankers favor complete interior black-out, figuring that you shall know where everything is and must be able to operate in total darkness. |
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I started my LED conversion today, I opted for a 4ft light above the sink/stove, I ran out of LED's and need to add another in the middle and finish my wiring. I believe i'll add a dimmer in an easy to reach area.
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
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Timwhy Samba Member
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Jake59 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2007 Posts: 179 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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I was down at IKEA a saw this for $15. It is nice and clean comes with a mounting bracket that alows the bar to rotate the light 10-15 degrees. The plan is to mount it to the pop-up bar to get some light up stairs. May also get another for between the rear door and cabinet for the downstairs BR
I did checked the transformer and output is 12vdc .5 amp max, tested it from the lighter socket and it works great.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60180767 _________________ Curent ride: 87 2WD Westy, 2012 Jetta Sportwagon 2.5S
Past Rides: 62 (23 window) Bus, 64 Ghai convertable, 68 single cab, 72 Super Bettle, 78 Bay window Bus, 84 GTI. |
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heliodon Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I continue to work on my Westie’s lighting, albeit slowly. Back during the holidays I installed one of Oznium’s bright little 2W warm white LED floodlights over the engine bay.
This little puppy does a fine job of lighting the engine but is definitely too bright for someone using the lower bunk. So, I milled some scrap ¼” tk. diffuse acrylic to make a little diffuser for the fixture.
The diffuser is made from three circles, all 2” in diameter held together with three 6-32 stainless steel machine screws. The upper circle has an inner cutout to press fit on the outside diameter of the Oznium light’s aluminum housing / heat sink. The middle circle is just a thin ring while the lowest circle is solid. I did mill the center of the bottom diffuser to 0.10” tk. to allow more light transmission. I have been very happy with the way this works. It slips on and off easily and makes the light quite comfortable to the eye.
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Cris
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