keep it stock or spray the bottom? |
leave it alone |
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Spray the bottom with bedliner stuff |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Bedliner |
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scottjk wrote: |
I like the looks of the black bedliner especially on a white van. Only thing I can say is check in to the material before you spray it. I used a urethane based liner instead of the epoxy liner due to UV longevity. I have been told that the epoxy liners become chalky looking after awhile.
Very valid point about resale. I took a ton of photos when I did all my work to document the fact that there was ZERO rust or damage before I sprayed it.
Scott
I prefer the front liner to go all the way around.
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otiswesty Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1730 Location: Portland
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I would not do the bed liner. My van was 100% stock original when I bought it. I did end up with body damage to the right lower rear when someone backed into my van. Rather than get the panel repainted, I decided to do the bedliner bit around the bottom once the bodywork was done. I would worry about hidden rust if I was looking to buy a van with bedliner on it as was previously mentioned. The bedliner looks great on though.
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1989 T3 Syncro Single cab
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JeffDenson Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2010 Posts: 71 Location: Hillsborogh N.C
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I am glad to see this because I have been on the fence about this as well. I think I might do it. I have the same solid white syncro look that I like a lot! |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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thummmper wrote: |
looks or not, you need to protect those rockers, and the black doesnt look bad. does bedliner come in light grey?
that would be badass! |
The light colors dis-color I have found. Especially white yellows. _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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I am about to do the same. I voted yes.
What company or brand of material are you using? _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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whynotvw Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2004 Posts: 1322
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:03 am Post subject: |
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i decided to leave it alone. it was a hard decision. my reason, i wanted mine to be different. it seems like most white syncro's get the liners. good thing is if i change my mind, i can always do it later |
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Keyport Westy Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2006 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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When I had our 86' completely repainted, I planned for the black stripes you were evaluating in advance but I opted NOT to use bedliner.
Once the base and clear paint was sprayed, the painter applied a very durable and common 3M product with a smoother texture then he painted it black with a slight sheen to match the GW bumpers. Though textured, we left some areas white like around the doors and steps. If anyone is interested, he used a waterbased paint by Sikkens. There is almost zero texture to the very flat and smooth paint finish, but they took it to bare metal then applied about 10 coats of primer (amd removed about seven) before applying the paint. They polished it about three times to remove any scratches or imperfections in the paint.
The only bedliner I used was on the engine deck area unseen from the outside. We used Raptor liner for that and it has a very rough glossy texture. I made a full width sound deading mat that is extremely effective to cover the engine bay 95% of the time so the sight of the bedliner is not an issue. |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:08 am Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
thummmper wrote: |
looks or not, you need to protect those rockers, and the black doesnt look bad. does bedliner come in light grey?
that would be badass! |
The light colors dis-color I have found. Especially white yellows. |
LineX with Kevlar will not discolor.
There is an added UV protectant layer sprayed over top.
dylan |
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Central Syncronizer Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2008 Posts: 302 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Don't do it (yet). Wait until you need to do some work on the rockers; do the repair, then cover it. Do the repairs well by the way, the rocker covers well but it's not magic.
The whole job of masking and painting the rockers will take an afternoon at most. Undoing it will take days.
cheers
Jay _________________ Ongoing restoration/maintenance of my syncro double cab (and soon Westy):
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j_dirge Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Fashion Trends....
I've been drawn to many myself, in all honesty.
We try so hard to look different, but end up all looking the same.
I attended BurningVan this last weekend and when you see 30 vans all parked together, the close to original looks seem to stand out in the crowd.
There's a certain elegance to stock.
Funny how that works. _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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thummmper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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the other options are rubberized undercoat that you paint white to match, or apply transparent mylar tape. it resists rock strikes.
maybe black conveyor belt protruding 3" horizontally would help deflect the wheel blast. it wouldnt detract from the body color any. |
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One more islander... Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Canada: British Columbia West Coast
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Bump!
Our 88 Westy has a not-bad body with a few dents and a bit of rust on the kitchen side and in front of the back two wheel-wells.
I'd like to get the full repaint/body treatment done, but it's going to be a year or two to save up for it.
Question:
How much harder will it be for the bodyperson/prepper (likely me) to get ready for a later complete respray if the lower area is done in the meantime with bedliner? Of course I'd clean it up before the bedliner, but there will likely be new rear wheelwells later, and probably cleanup once again on the kitchen wall.
Will I be making things difficult for myself?
Thanks!
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Kathy
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offroad. Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 211 Location: llanelli, s wales
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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it may be different across the water but in the uk blacking the bottom of cars was common in the late 70`s and 80`s to hide the rust and filler so for me its a no.
have you not got a product that will not only protect but can also be painted over this way you get the best of both worlds surelly. of coarse if you like the 2 tone scheme the why stop 9 inches up. be bold.
lee. |
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