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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: heater lever controls |
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on my 67 bug my heater control levers do not stay in the up position. i have done alot of different work to bugs in the past, but never needed to check out the heater controls. im looking for ideas on what to look at and what kind of replacement parts i should be looking for.
the cables are fine, not broken and work to open the heat flaps on the heater boxes, but the levers do not stay up when i pull them to turn the heat on. _________________ 67 bug x3
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26298 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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You're in luck, as that's an easy fix - you need to tighten the nuts that hold the heater levers to the e-brake bracket. There are "friction disks" in between the lever and the mounting bracket it bolts to, and the tighter you make that nut, the more friction for the discs - and the harder it is to move that lever. |
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67jason Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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sweet, glad its and easy one. _________________ 67 bug x3
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
The original "friction disks" Andy referred to are nylon washers. Over the years they disintigrate. You will need to remove the nut and insert two thin washers on either side of the heater lever(s). Then reassemble and snug the nut until there is just enough resistence that the lever stays up. |
thanks, if my nylon washers are toast i'll try your suggestion.
it gets annoying drving with one hand on the wheel, one on the heater levers and one to shift with...only got two hands. put up with this all last winter, and now that it is starting to get chilly here in the late night and early morning hours (work nights here so i drive alot durring these times) i want to be able to cruise with the heat on when needed. _________________ 67 bug x3
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26298 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
The original "friction disks" Andy referred to are nylon washers. Over the years they disintigrate. |
I was thinking I was (or will have to be) going to have to do that on my 66-frame baja - here in this dry climate those sort of things dry out and fall apart more often than in other parts of the country. But so far, other than retightening them every couple of years, they've held up (and I've had that car like 12 years now)
-Andy |
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max-five Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Kenner, Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well I have friction washers in mine and they cannot make one whole trip before they are flopping around again. I am looking for an aircraft type elastic stop nut. That should take care of it. _________________ '66 Beetle Convertible "Wilson"
'05 New Beetle Convertible "Ladybug"
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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My original friction washers in my white '67 were almost completely gone. The left side stayed up but the right would creep back down in about a mile. When I took them apart, there were a few crumbs of the original nylon washer on the right side and about half of one on the left side. If memory serves, there should be two per lever (one on either side of each lever). I snatched the ones off my blue '67 (which were like new) and put them on my white car. I used thin metal washers on the blue car. They both worked great in each car from then on (of course the metal washers are not going to disintigrate, like the ones on my white car will eventually ) _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
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'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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rat70fj Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have an exploded view or good picture of the way all the washers, etc. go on the threade shaft for the heater levers? |
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bill may Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16754 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: |
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rat70fj wrote: |
Does anyone have an exploded view or good picture of the way all the washers, etc. go on the threade shaft for the heater levers? |
Theres not a whole lot to it - I just put a plastic washer on each of the lever with a small metal washer against the nut. You can find plastic washers at pretty much any hardware store - worse case, almost any piece of plastic cut approximate size with a hole in the middle works. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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bill may Samba Member
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rat70fj Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks,
Did the hardware store washers for $2. They work perfectly now. |
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pantone149 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I use Thread Locker (blue) to make sure the threaded parts stay put and don't loosen when I move the control levers up and down. |
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rat70fj Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Not a bad idea. |
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andk5591 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Or use locknuts with the nylon inserts...... _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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