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jfswesty Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:00 am Post subject: Spare tire racks |
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Hi folks. Cold morning here. Saw a syncro on here a week or so ago with the spare tire mounted on a rack that looked as thou it was fastened to the rear lift hatch. Since moving up to the 16" rims, the spare doesn't fit under the front. Anyone know about this rear rack with the tire set up over the left side of the rear window ?? Looked pretty good. Thanks.
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: racks |
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the best
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gary2a/rack/vanagonrack.htm _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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VisPacem Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Spare tire racks |
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jfswesty wrote: |
Hi folks. Cold morning here. Saw a syncro on here a week or so ago with the spare tire mounted on a rack that looked as thou it was fastened to the rear lift hatch. Since moving up to the 16" rims, the spare doesn't fit under the front. Anyone know about this rear rack with the tire set up over the left side of the rear window ?? Looked pretty good. Thanks.
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garylee's basic tire carrier: give or take a few rupees, US1000 lock stock and barrel, sorry but
Ford Bronco II, at Pig A Part or Craiglist, US$40
Well it goes on passenger side, but a little inconvenience (for you I guess) for US$960 ? _________________ LG aka VisPacemPB, *The* party Pooper
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Jon_slider Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2007 Posts: 5091 Location: Santa Cruz, Crowdifornia
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:24 am Post subject: Rocky Mountain Westy has a $500 swing out, killer deal! |
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I think Gary's best bang for the buck is his ladder with tire and gas carrier
and this is the deluxe $etup
keep in mind that if you like to open your rear hatch often, you would be best served by his swing away tire carrier, not hatch mounted ladder.
as far as junkyard tire carriers, the pathfinder is also an option. more info here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3626536#3626536
Rocky Mountain Westy makes some very nice stuff too:
The Rocky Mountain Westy tire and gas carrier is on Sale for $500.. But you have to buy their bumper too.
(imo, Gary is overpriced.)
http://www.rockymountainwesty.com/Single_Swing_Tire_Carrier_with_2_Can_holder_p/rmw-tcss01.htm
Van Cafe sells the Rocky Mountain Westy Heavy Duty bumper,
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/search?keywords=hdb&x=0&y=0
and a matching tire carrier (the combined cost is not much more than the Gary lee tire carrier alone).
Van Cafe also sells this inexpensive extended carrier, for the stock location
as well as Burleys steering shaft protector
see bottom of page
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/search?keywords=tire&x=0&y=0
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and here is the link to Burleys site, and his current tire carrier
http://burleysmotorsports.com/index.php?main_page=...jlop6ni0a6
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j_dirge Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Burley should have one coming in the next couple of months or so, too. _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
-57 pan f/g buggy with a 67 pancake Type 3 "S"
"Jimi Hendrix owned one. Richard Nixon did not"
-Grand Tour, Season 1, episodes 4 and 5
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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canasync Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2010 Posts: 656 Location: BC
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget that the tire size is the deciding factor not the rims. So if you are getting 16's but keeping the stock tire diameter you will not have an issue. _________________ 1987 Syncro
3 knobs
PumpeDüse TDI (17mm Garret Turbo, bigger injectors, stage 4 malone tune, intercooled)
Cruise Control
Remote Start/locks
Custom Lift
Custom Bumpers with receivers
Coast Mountain Hightop - Comming Soon
1985 2wd Vanagon Pre-runner in the making
soon to be powered by 2.5L Subaru
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ericos_bob Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2009 Posts: 71 Location: australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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How do the ladder mounted carriers work? Difficult to open the rear door? Stronger struts used?
My bad I just found the answer in the link above. Surprising that all that all the weight does not make the door noticeably harder to open. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at a syncro that had a good size pair of matching dents on the top and bottom of the rear hatch. The owner said that the secret combination to get them was this rack combination w/spare and washboard roads.
About 45 LBS. for a full gas can, 30 lb. Hi-Lift, 50+ LBS. for the spare(depending on tire size and rim) and the weight of the rack holding onto sheetmetal is asking for a lot.
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VWZigs Samba Member
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VWZigs Samba Member
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BoxsterGT Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2010 Posts: 80 Location: Stow, MA
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone know of a "Front" mounted spare carrier?
I have a Doka and don't want it in the way. Perhaps a mount at the back of the cab would work.
Len
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stclair411 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2009 Posts: 222 Location: working on it
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:08 am Post subject: |
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BoxsterGT wrote: |
Does anyone know of a "Front" mounted spare carrier?
I have a Doka and don't want it in the way. Perhaps a mount at the back of the cab would work.
Len
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Could you just use a Yakima Load Warrior basket with the spare tire attachment? Could be a good way to keep a Hi-Lift, shovel, and a few other things out of the way as well. Not real fancy, but might be all you need. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westy "June" |
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jbell Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: |
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This is how I carry an extra spare for remote trips. It mounts to the tow bar which might come in handy also.
To answer some questions posed :
1. It doesn't make the temperature run hotter.
2. Since this is in addition to the normal spare in the clamshell I think
it would actually help a lot in a front collision by distributing the
force to a wider area.
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jbell _________________ 1984 Westy Joker 1.6 NA Diesel, 5 sp |
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FrankenSubySyncro Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 638 Location: Vancouver, WA.
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my version of the pathfinder carrier:
[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/subyvanagon/4902692558/in/set-72157624747893200 [/img]
$10 from pick n pull plus $50 for heim joints and steel post plus some scrap metal pieces. Flipped to open from the drivers side and extended about a foot. I reused the latching mechanism from the pathfinder. No connection to the hatch. _________________ Syncronize it!
1987 Franken Syncro (converted 2WD auto)
2004 2.5 SOHC Subaru
F & R lockers, decoupler, SS, 6.17 R&P
Trans Cooler
EMPI race prepped 930 CVs and axles
Bilstein coilover front, rear ProComp MX-6066R shocks, 14" hypercoil springs
30x9.5 15" BFG Muds
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Nose job (custom front bumper) http://www.flickr.com/photos/subyvanagon/sets/72157624970330925/ |
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Witless Joe Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Westy has a $500 swing out, killer deal! |
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I'm pretty sure both of those would be most help for a Syncro, not a 2wd. The cross member on a 2wd is closer to the undercarriage, and since the rear part of the spare tire has to rest on the top of the cross member, it ends up setting the pinch point (and fulcrum), regardless of what you do with the clamshell or wire hinges.
A link to a previous post of mine with a photo of my own solution to this issue:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4432968&highlight=#4432968
It's interesting to read all this concern with the steering shaft interference, which was not my problem with a 2wd install. Maybe the Syncro crossmember makes that more problematic. My 1985's 2wd steering shaft was completely clear, but shifting into reverse (pushing down on the shifter) would contact the tire sidewall on the shifter rod. I had to lower the tire pressure to about 30 psi to accomodate that, and rotate the tire periodically by a couple of inches to avoid chafe in the same area. The chafe is pretty trivial, relative to the curb rash the tire is doubtless designed to take, but I'm fussy like that. |
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ddye Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Like it _________________ 1988 Westy
2.1 Boston Bob Rebuild
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ddye Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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toomanyveedubs wrote: |
Fixed it 4 u
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I was thinking about this. Wouldn't this block the radiator thus wouldn't the van run hotter? _________________ 1988 Westy
2.1 Boston Bob Rebuild
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chimivee Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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ericos_bob wrote: |
Surprising that all that all the weight does not make the door noticeably harder to open. |
Hatch is definitely harder to open with a loaded GL rack on back. Additional support is needed if you want to keep the hatch open on its own. _________________ -James
86 Syncro Westy, etc |
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chimivee Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
I looked at a syncro that had a good size pair of matching dents on the top and bottom of the rear hatch. The owner said that the secret combination to get them was this rack combination w/spare and washboard roads. |
Ouch. I've driven a bit of washboard roads with about 100+ lbs loaded on my G.L. full-size rack, with no ill-effect. (except for lots of loose interior screws!) I wonder if that owner's rack was loose, causing it to hammer down on the hatch? _________________ -James
86 Syncro Westy, etc |
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Rocky Mountain Westy Samba Member
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