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hoipolloi Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2010 Posts: 44 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:30 pm Post subject: AC Unit Removal (permanently)? Done it? |
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Well its raining. Its winter (finally, hey Im in California, its been beautiful for weeks!) and I want to DO SOMETHING!
So I am looking at my AC unit, which I have bashed my head on SO many nights when I sit up. And I notice the that front left corner seems slightly sagging (above the top right corner of the rear cupboard). So I want to fix this, but I have had the thought of trying to completely remove my AC unit to open up the entire area.
Has anyone ever done this? I am considering it and I at the least need to fix the sagging corner.
I will take some photos shortly... _________________ ----------
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SyncroGhia Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2009 Posts: 2458 Location: Highnam, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Is this a tin top van or does it have a pop top?
If it's a tin ton, then you can remove it but the headlight will sag down as there is nothing to hold it up. You'll need to put in the bars which run through the loops above it and clip into the roof.
If it's a pop top, firstly I'm interested in the system complete and have the normal cupboard as a swap/part ex. Secondly, you should be able to remove it and have more space.
Removing the complete system (pipes, loom, condensor) etc is a fairly big job but can be done in a day. One thing I would suggest is trying to loosen the pipes going onto the condensor carefully and if they're not going to move, don't force them. You'll just take the threads off! Remove the condensor with the pipes attached to save it.
The rear cupboard is different as well to allow the pipes to run up behind it so you can gain space here as well.
MG _________________ T3 Syncro 16 S6 Westfalia Limey SOLD
T3 Syncro 6x6 SOLD
T3 RS6 Bluestar
T3 Tristar Syncro 16 SOLD
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CQ Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2009 Posts: 546 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I removed all mine on my 82 Aircooled. Was not too bad to do. Left it all intact too just incase someday I or somebody else is looking for one. _________________ 82 Westy 'Betsy'
72 Bus 'Bertha' -Sold
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hoipolloi Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2010 Posts: 44 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Got any photos? I would love to see what that looks like.. _________________ ----------
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irgsmoore4 Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2010 Posts: 211 Location: Bellingham WA
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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i have an 87 vanagon and i removed the A/C unit a few months back, we never used it and i lost count how many times i banged my head on it! It came out easy enough and the only trace now is the outline on the headliner , 4 screw holes in the liner, and the liner is missing inside the rear door on the side walls, as there is none behind the plastic panels, removing the motor was easy but the motor bracket is another story getting to all of the bolts is a pain, i pulled all the lines under the van and cut them at the condenser, (be warned the liquid is not good for you or your pets! the system in our van was dry,PO had bled it for removal but never got too it). _________________ Ivan
99 Eurovan (The Tortuga)
87 2.1 WBX Vanagon ( Elsie ) sold
Wife,3 kids 1 dog(luna)
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canasync Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2010 Posts: 656 Location: BC
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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irgsmoore4 wrote: |
i have an 87 vanagon and i removed the A/C unit a few months back, we never used it and i lost count how many times i banged my head on it! |
X 2 _________________ 1987 Syncro
3 knobs
PumpeDüse TDI (17mm Garret Turbo, bigger injectors, stage 4 malone tune, intercooled)
Cruise Control
Remote Start/locks
Custom Lift
Custom Bumpers with receivers
Coast Mountain Hightop - Comming Soon
1985 2wd Vanagon Pre-runner in the making
soon to be powered by 2.5L Subaru
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hoipolloi Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2010 Posts: 44 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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photos?
Photos Please! _________________ ----------
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GMByers Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 642 Location: Retired in NW PA
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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"photos"....of what?
If you're looking for pictures of a Vanagon interior without the A/C tunnel, why not just look for some pictures, there are plenty of them here on thesamba. _________________ And then there were two...downsized to 83 Doka &
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hoipolloi Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2010 Posts: 44 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:01 am Post subject: |
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I could scroll through photos all day and have looked at a lot, I was hoping for a few shots specifically of the interior without the AC Unit, you know, looking back towards the rear or in from the back to see it without the AC. I guess I am not as good at searching with successful results, thought it easier to ask...didn't mean to upset you! _________________ ----------
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86syncrowesty Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Colorado Front Range
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: |
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What about converting the A/C cabinet to a storage unit? Anyone have ideas on that? Mainly wondering how many holes would be left in the cabinet when the A/C is gone. Or would it be worth it - does the A/C unit provide some structure?
FWIW - Bentley has a good removal how-to. _________________ 1986 Vanagon -- Syncro, Westy
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irgsmoore4 Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2010 Posts: 211 Location: Bellingham WA
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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head liner
inside the rear hatch drivers side
inside rear hatch pass side
sorry if the pics arent too good _________________ Ivan
99 Eurovan (The Tortuga)
87 2.1 WBX Vanagon ( Elsie ) sold
Wife,3 kids 1 dog(luna)
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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86syncrowesty wrote: |
What about converting the A/C cabinet to a storage unit? Anyone have ideas on that? Mainly wondering how many holes would be left in the cabinet when the A/C is gone. Or would it be worth it - does the A/C unit provide some structure? |
This is what I did. I REALLY like this storage space. It holds a ton of stuff that is big that doesn't seem to fit anywhere else. It is very useful space in my opinion. I considered taking the cabinet completely out, but I'm very glad that I didn't. The cabinet still supports itself even with the A/C unit out of it except for the right/rear corner. You have to engineer some type of support there. There is a "hole" in the front side where the vents came in and out, but it conveniently allows access to the storage from the rear bench seat.
If anyone out there wants pictures, just put a reply up here, and I will try to oblige you in short order. _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
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86syncrowesty Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Colorado Front Range
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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indytriple wrote: |
This is what I did. I REALLY like this storage space. |
Did you pull the A/C unit out with the cabinet and then reinstall the cabinet? Or somehow pull out the A/C unit without removing the cabinet? Just wondering, looks like via Bentley you have to pull it all apart. _________________ 1986 Vanagon -- Syncro, Westy
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I installed an early westy vent on my late cabinets, no head banging for me.
looks factory too and I keep my a/c! |
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indytriple Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2009 Posts: 710 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:13 am Post subject: |
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86syncrowesty wrote: |
indytriple wrote: |
This is what I did. I REALLY like this storage space. |
Did you pull the A/C unit out with the cabinet and then reinstall the cabinet? Or somehow pull out the A/C unit without removing the cabinet? Just wondering, looks like via Bentley you have to pull it all apart. |
I pulled the cabinet, removed the A/C, and then replaced the cabinet. That's the only way to do it. It's not that hard, especially when you aren't trying to salvage your A/C. As TK would begrudgingly say, "Rip and Strip!" I can't believe he hasn't commented on this thread. He hates A/C removal threads. _________________ "See The Glass As Already Broken."
87 Vanagon Westy Auto Bostig
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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TK is sleeping and left me head thunder puss...so keep your a/c or i'll beat you with a NOS heater core (not to be confused with the $50 buck jobby) |
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