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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Mottled glass Reply with quote

Somewhat irrelavent threads seem to be a trend here lately so I'll jump on the bandwagen Razz

What makes VW tempered glass show the checkered or mottled rainbow pattern at some times of the day or under certain atmospheric conditions? I know it's due to polarization but why only VW glass?, of the many, many vehicles I've owned or seen over the years no other glass does it. It doesn't seem to be brand or year specific either, usually it's on the perfectly flat panels but I have seen it on the curved back windows of beetles too.

Just walked past the 71 and it was doing it, brings back memories of a 21 window my dad had when I was little every time i see it and it made me wonder.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it on other cars when I have sunglasses on.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wear polarized sunglasses, the cockpit windshield will be alive with the mottled rainbow patterns. The pattern changes with pressure differential and airspeed. B737 windshields are five layers, glass, gel, and plexiglas. They are heated and are somewhat flexible. It might be the width of the layers and the angle of the light that make the pattern. And/or it might be the components of the glass mixture. I've also seen the patterns in older glass that was delaminating.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're so far north are you sure it isn't aurora borealis?
Down here we just see sun spots in the glass.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to see all kindsa things in the glass. Rainbows, colors, butterflies, dragonflies, angels, Siddhartha, Marx, my stockbroker, John Lennon, Henry Miller, Yogi Berra..............
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a phenomenon of tempered glass (and a way to tell if glass has been heat treated/tempered). The rainbow/checkerboard pattern is actually a stress pattern from the cooling jets blown on the glass during the tempering process.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing that type of distortion in my dads old Mercedes. Saw it in the rear window. Never saw it anywhere else.
Get new glass. See (pun intended) if it goes away.
I'll ask my glass expert guy at work.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a while in the 80's Ford rear windows were bad about it. I didn't notice it on other makes. And I still haven't noticed it on my VW's. Peace!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's any consolation-I have the same issue with my 2010 Jetta.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure it is the glass but maybe something in the water your drinking.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sad part about replacing my windsheild was loosing that tye-dyed glass look (especially when wearing polarized sun glasses), but the trade off is that there are no scratches, so I can actually see at night now!
My body shop guy got me a new one for around $200...good deal?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all three of my sciroccos did this, one '84 and two '86s without polarized sunglasses.

Every other car I have owned which is oh about 8-10 vehicles required polarized sunglasses to get the effect.

If I were to tell you why glass does this, someone would spontaneously combust and I do not want that on my conscious or I don't know why this happens in some glass and not others.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came across this thread on accident while searching for an unrelated topic. Lo and behold it solved a curiosity that I'd been having for a few days. I kept noticing spots on my windows that I'd never seen before. After reading this thread I realized I'd just bought a new set of polarized shades. Duh.

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Somewhat irrelevant threads seem to be a trend here lately so I'll jump on the bandwagon Razz


Even irrelevant threads could use a picture. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rear window on my bus look like the picture above but a lot closer and more reddish. Never a problem with the front windshield though. It's just real pitted
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a SUPER CHEAP pair of sunglasses one year when I took my family to Sea World. It was messing with me bad in our 2006 F150, but I didnt know what it was. Subsequent and less cheap pairs of sunglasses havent had it. Dunno.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thewalrus wrote:
The rear window on my bus look like the picture above but a lot closer and more reddish. Never a problem with the front windshield though. It's just real pitted


Could be an issue with ONLY tempered glass. Windshields are not tempered. they are safety glass, 2 layers of glass with a plastic sheet between them.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarized sunglasses as somebody already mentioned.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and here I always thought it was the spirits of the bugs I'd hit embedded in the glass. Laughing
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