engine compartment help

tonyj602 · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: engine compartment help

hey guys and gals. been reading around this forum alot and have learned a ton about my type 3. I have a 66 squareback with a 1600 dual port. Im in Arizona and summer is coming up.

fan shroud is in good condition, motor is tuned. what can i do to keep this air cooled cool?

ive read of bigger aftermarket coolers but also the tiny stocks are best?

sealing my engine but am confused on this. Anyone got a picture of a selaed compartment?

Ive read running 3rd gear for ALL around town driving to keep rpms up and fan speed up but in my head higher rpm=higher engine temps

Id appreciate any advice or steps in the right direction like some write ups or something i can read. yes, ive used the search tab/google etc jus having a hell of a time finding this info. thanks in advance.

6T5 square · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:23 am Post subject:

if you have EVERY piece of cooling tin on the engine, you should have no problem keeping cool. Post pictures of the engine compartment an d I'm sure the crowd around here will have plenty more suggestions.
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Mike Fisher · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:33 am Post subject:

You might have vapor lock with your mechanical fuel pump? My 67 did that at Rest Stops on a Summer trip to CA for about 20 minutes before it would start. Don't run it without Both clamps on the bellows!
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W1K1 · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:15 am Post subject:

Are you saying your engine is running hot now?

Do you have gauges to monitor the temps?

A stock 1600cc should run cool if in good tune anywhere in the world, just like they were designed to.

higher rpm = more air passing over the engine to keep it cooler
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KTPhil · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:15 am Post subject:

Is it stock? You can't, and there is no need to, seal the engine bay of any Type 3.

tonyj602 · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:38 am Post subject:

Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

It is stock 1600. Not stock to the year I was told.

I don't th ink it is running hotter that it should be now.

The guages were not hooked up. Electrical is a mess and my next project.

Can't load an image. I saw info on how to upload. Ill look for that and add a pic

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tonyj602 · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:47 am Post subject:

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KTPhil · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:01 pm Post subject:

You can't get away from sucking hot intake air to those carbs unless you rig up a stock air cleaner to get it from the rear cowling.

Also, get a generator cover pronto so you don't suck hot air into the cooling system.

And I presume you have capped off the cooling outlets in the aluminum fan housing? Without that, it will burn up fast.

blankmange · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject:

tonyj602 · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject:

Thanks guys this is the info I'm after. This is how I got the sb.so fan shroud needs a cover. There's a few hole in the shroud also that I assume need covered(cooling outlets?). Fan shroud considered the generator cover? Ill research what the stock air cleaner should look like but basically I guess I need to pull air from the rear fender cowl. Any this else you guys see that should be sealed?

Thanks for the info guys.

blankmange · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject:

Mike Fisher · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject:

This 67 engine has 58-59mm? Aircraft Spruce ducting to hook up to an EMPI header & heater boxes.

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two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

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tonyj602 · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject:

take a look:

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Thanks for the visual blankmange.

vlad01 · Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject:

KTPhil · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:57 am Post subject:

Also, check for a rubber grommet around the fuel line that passes through the front tin. Without it, vibration will cut your fuel line and flood the hot motor with gas!

supaninja · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject:

is that a type 1 breather, lol?
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blankmange · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject:

supaninja · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject:

are you sure, because that looks just like one of those bling blang chrome crankcase breather for a type 1. Here is a pic of a NOS type 2 one(they are the same as type 1's) http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1071962

That PO was all about the hack stuff, you got your work cut out for to get everything up to par.
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Bobnotch · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject:

W1K1 · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject:

I'm not seeing an oil filler tube for the stock location Shocked

Is that the dipstick hangin out there in the breeze?
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