Odometer Fix/Cluster upgrade

mordeaux · Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject:

Thanks, for that. I've seen someone's pix of the whole thing apart so it seems possible to get the odo component off of the speedo shaft. Looks dicey to me.

mordeaux · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject:

So, my efforts to get cyanoacrylate adhesive to wick down the shaft and fuse the metal gear failed. I'm not surprised. Back to the drawing board.

In the course of re-installing the instruments unit, I noticed a two-pronged electrical connector on the back of the speedo unit. It had no electrical cable attached to it. I found, the dash, a wire with a two-prong connector, female. Spacing was right, plugged it in. Nothing different than before.

Can anyone tell me what the two-prong male terminal on the speedo unit is for? It does not show in the pictures in my Bentley.

syncrodoka · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject:

VSS for the cruise control.

mordeaux · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject:

Aha! This may explain why my cruise control does not work.

Is polarity an issue?

syncrodoka · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject:

I don't believe so.

Chris_L · Samba Member Joined: December 22, 2006 Posts: 46

While fixing the odo, I broke the very small shaft that turns the speedo needle, on the opposite end of the shaft from where the speedo needle is pressed on. Basically where the shaft goes into the drive behind all the odo parts.

The pictures of the odo housing separated completely from the speedo drive made me think that the shaft could come out on the other end similar to pulling the speedo needle off the top (which was really tight on mine). Somewhere in there, the shaft actually gets much smaller in diameter, and is even more delicate than it appears.

Is there anyway to replace the small speedo shaft? This is on a syncro (86 gl), so replacing the whole instrument is tougher as they different from normal vanagon speedos.

BoneStock67 · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:12 am Post subject:

It looks like it's my turn to tackle this repair ( http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=431499 ) so I thought it would be good to get some follow-up from tencentlife and/or orbitald, given that it's been about a year since their original repairs.
So, is it still working, guys? Do you still think this is the definitive fix?
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keithwwalker · Samba Member Joined: May 30, 2005 Posts: 886

super glue is very weak in shear, but strong in tension.

Inlet · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject:

is there a way to set the clock to standard time?

tencentlife · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject:

BoneStock67 · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:22 am Post subject:

As my van's inspection just lapsed as of two days ago, I decided it was REALLY time this time to fix the odometer. And I was REALLY planning to do tencentlife's fix, but it ended up being so easy to get at the offending gear shaft and just push it back into position that I figured I would do just that and wait and see how long it took for it to flake out again. Anyway, it took about ten minutes, my odometer works again, and that's my story, at least for now.
Now about that exhaust leak ....
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1967 Beetle, now becoming my daily driver again, after a long rest in the garage

"There are two possible outcomes: if the result confirms the hypothesis, then you've made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you've made a discovery.” -Enrico Fermi

tencentlife · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:33 am Post subject:

BoneStock67 · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:53 am Post subject:

Hey, now you're just telegraphing your future "I told you so", which I will certainly give you the opportunity to make at the appropriate time, when, in the spirit of full disclosure, I report back on how long it takes for the shaft to slip again.
But if it does turn out to be at least a few thousand miles, I can live with a ten minute fix at that interval. But the scorn of tencentlife? That is a much more bitter pill to swallow.
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1986 Wolfsburg Westfalia Weekender 2.1L stock
1967 Beetle, now becoming my daily driver again, after a long rest in the garage

"There are two possible outcomes: if the result confirms the hypothesis, then you've made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you've made a discovery.” -Enrico Fermi

kamzcab86 · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject:

tencentlife · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:19 pm Post subject:

Farfrumwork · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject:

haha, commiserate for sure

my JB weld fix lasted all of about 1000'.... that was 2 years ago I think Rolling Eyes

I'll be in there soon and will mate a hard stop to the housing. It gets old not knowing how far I've gone (have to go) or what kind of mpg the beastie is achieving.
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Orbitald · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject:

floggingmolly · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject:

Funny, mine just went yesterday, one mile before 224,224 so I wanted to fix it! Got in there today before reading this and just slid it back over. We'll see how long it lasts, but it seemed to go back and click in? Dunno, but at least there are some fixes, no matter how "primitive". I like the paperclip idea. So....we'll see if my upcoming 2,500 mile trip is a freebie or actually gets registered on the odometer.
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SteelB12 · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:45 am Post subject:

Mine gave up the ghost right when I changed the fuel lines. Thought it was a weird coincidence. Crying or Very sad

BoneStock67 · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:17 am Post subject:

Promised full disclosure:

I just noticed the other day that mine had slipped back out again, probably not more than fifty miles after I had put it back in. So I too am now fully convinced that a hard stop is needed. That paperclip idea does look appealing, but I fear it would not take too much vibration to move it enough to let the shaft fall out again.

By the way, is it just me, or do various posts in this thread cause an almost irresistible urge to give a "That's what SHE said" kind of reply?
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1967 Beetle, now becoming my daily driver again, after a long rest in the garage

"There are two possible outcomes: if the result confirms the hypothesis, then you've made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you've made a discovery.” -Enrico Fermi


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