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boring63 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Portland
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: Need help identifying my new bug |
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Hello new to the forums and have a coulpe questions. I've been lurking around and doing some research but still need some help. I think its a 1961???
First WA title says 66 when its clearly not. Any suggestions on how to get it fixed.
Second is the front apron correct?? It has 2 rib but not sure if that would be correct..
Third is the 4 tab hood correct??
Fourth I have one hella big logo at bottom lense and one small logo at the top lense. Which is correct??
Thanks!!!!
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surferrguy1 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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i cant really help but your bug is beautiful! |
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rat70fj Samba Member
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gt1953 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nice Patina. Suggest that you could steel wool the major rust off. Then obtain some TR-3 and apply it to the car. I will make the rust shine and helps if from rusitng.
On the year issue, what is on the tunnel, the pan number. That could be 66. Is it a ball joint or king pin front end? _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
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fuhq64 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like its a "small window" car and looks like a short axle trans. 66 trans' have long axles so my guess is that the pan wont be a 66. But that's just my contribution to the guessing game _________________ 69 Squareback
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Motorhead55 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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What is the number on the pan under the rear seat? _________________ 2007 Dodge Cummins Diesel 4x4 6spd stick
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skabonner Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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'61-'62 seems right, and the vin says '61. '61 was the first year for the non-h front apron, and '63 has a raised emblem hood.
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boring63 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Portland
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your help on this!!! I love the car it's a blast to drive. Needs a new steering gear, has massive play in the steering wheel. It has a franklin's adjustable front beam, spindles, new tie rods and entire new brake system. Needs an engine rebuild (leaks bad). The wife unfortunatly doesn't like how low it is so I need to raise it up a bit. The rear jack points will hit the yellow lane turtle things. lol I need to find a rear deck lid. The current one is red and doesn't fit that well. I will take some pics of the inside and under the rear seat with the badge under there. |
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boring63 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Portland
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Nice Patina. Suggest that you could steel wool the major rust off. Then obtain some TR-3 and apply it to the car. I will make the rust shine and helps if from rusitng.
On the year issue, what is on the tunnel, the pan number. That could be 66. Is it a ball joint or king pin front end? |
Who makes TR-3 and where could I get it??? Thanks!!! |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8501 Location: PNW
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a pan job to me. I bet the vin on your registration matches the pan but not the body. Better hope the body vin doesnt come back as stolen.
Apron and 4 tab are correct even though you will hear others argue about the hood.
Hope it comes back clean. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:05 am Post subject: |
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boring63 wrote: |
gt1953 wrote: |
Nice Patina. Suggest that you could steel wool the major rust off. Then obtain some TR-3 and apply it to the car. I will make the rust shine and helps if from rusitng.
On the year issue, what is on the tunnel, the pan number. That could be 66. Is it a ball joint or king pin front end? |
Who makes TR-3 and where could I get it??? Thanks!!! |
"TR3 Resin Glaze" is just a brand and type of car wax, available at most FLAPS. |
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boring63 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Portland
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well the title matches the front vin plate. But I won't know if it matches the pan till this weekend. The car is currently in Olympia, WA and I work in Portland, OR. But I hope it's clean... So I will try some of that TR3 stuff to slow down the rust.. LOL I'm hoping to paint it soon one way or another...
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boring63 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Portland
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Is it a ball joint or king pin front end? |
It is a king pin front end. |
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MANNAXMAN Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2009 Posts: 485 Location: Cali
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Need help identifying my new bug |
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It's actually a Nov. '60 produced body. The chassis #'s listed in the table are for the LAST vehicle produced in that month.
boring63 wrote: |
Second is the front apron correct?? It has 2 rib but not sure if that would be correct..
Third is the 4 tab hood correct?? |
Front apron looks like mine on my Apr. '61 built ragtop. But I've seen a Sept. 1960 built '61 with a 3-rib front apron. I haven't been able to pinpoint when the change took place. It's been narrowed down to Oct. or Nov 1960. See discussion on last page of this thread - 1961 One-Year-Onlies...
According to Progressive Refinements, the 3-tab hood started Jan. 2, 1961 with chassis 3 550 952. So the 4-tab hood is correct for your car. |
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boring63 Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Portland
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the numbers on the pan. They match!!!
And more pics.
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Boom Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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nice car I have a november 60 car as well, my vin is 99375 higher than yours.
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Boom Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2007 Posts: 1119 Location: Houston by God Texas
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boring63 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ya, sure do! Thanks for the complement! |
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Corwin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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That's a '61. It's my old car - I rescued it from a barn in the Granite Falls area about 2 years ago. I miss that thing - it's a fun cruiser! |
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tennbugnut Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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please don't ruin the patina with a paint job |
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